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greg mosser wrote: there are a couple of things where i’d push the numbers a little further:
- figs can easily live through 0F or lower, but they freeze to the ground. if you have a good variety that fruits on new wood, you can still have fruit every year.
- i’ve left my potted loquat out all through this winter (it occasionally dropped to single digit temps) and it seems fine ...
- there are [Kiwi] species (at least A. arguta and A. kolomicta) that are hardy well below those numbers ...
- pawpaws are a solidly temperate tree ...
Nancy Reading wrote:I'm interested how hardy pomegranate appear to be. I wonder why I haven't seen them more in the UK then? I suppose they need hotter summers to fruit well, but in my polytunnel....Hmmm!
Mike Guye wrote: I have a friend who keeps a peach tree (quite an ancient one now) in his polytunnel - it fruits every year but he has to prune it within a couple of inches of the plastic covering. It's almost like a large bonsai, with a fat stocky trunk..
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Nancy Reading wrote: A Pomegranate could be just the thing to replace it with. If you prune it more like an apple it would be easier for me to prune. I'm always wary of pruning the apricot in case I kill it, but it is one of the reasons the plastic need replacing: it punched its way through when I wasn't looking.
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Mike Guye wrote:
Could a dwarf pomegranate be the answer? When in stock you can buy it here: https://www.victoriananursery.co.uk/Dwarf-Pomegranate/ though there are probably other outlets too.
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Nancy Reading wrote: It could be the answer, but I've heard that the fruit are miniature too, and pomegranate are already a bit of a faff to peel....
As it was sheltered, don't you think it was probably significantly warmer than –18°C, immediately around the plant? That said, Skandi, it's great you can grow figs at 57° latitude !Skandi Rogers wrote: My fig has survived -18C with no die back at all. I haven't seen any damage on any other figs either. They are of course all planted in sheltered locations
Mike Guye wrote:
As it was sheltered, don't you think it was probably significantly warmer than –18°C, immediately around the plant? That said, Skandi, it's great you can grow figs at 57° latitude !Skandi Rogers wrote: My fig has survived -18C with no die back at all. I haven't seen any damage on any other figs either. They are of course all planted in sheltered locations
.Skandi Rogers wrote: ... I suspect it went all the way down [to –18°C], I don't see how it wouldn't have we had that temperature for nearly 24 hours and no sun.
... I've found it's not the cold plants can't handle but the damp and wind, I couldn't keep rosemary or sage alive in the last house and it only went to -10C I might try them here since I seem to have a better spot for overwintering things.
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Jonah Bassman wrote: In the foothills of where I live, many oranges lemons and limes grow to maturity and produce abundant fruit every year even where it gets down to 22-25F sometimes. Much potential with seed-grown trees, even if one can't get their hands on special cold-tolerant varieties!
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Dan Fish wrote:I live at 3000ft in the foothills. It was 20F this morning but that's about as cold as it gets here. I would love to grow lemons! Maybe lime too cause I love mojitos. My neighbor does but they are on wheels and go into a greenhouse for the winter. I wonder if I could baby them for 3 years and then plant them in a smart spot and get away with it? I used to think the answer was "hell no" but this post is making me want to get crazy!
Mike Guye wrote:
Dan Fish wrote:I live at 3000ft in the foothills. It was 20F this morning but that's about as cold as it gets here. I would love to grow lemons! Maybe lime too cause I love mojitos. My neighbor does but they are on wheels and go into a greenhouse for the winter. I wonder if I could baby them for 3 years and then plant them in a smart spot and get away with it? I used to think the answer was "hell no" but this post is making me want to get crazy!
Hi Dan - Satsuma would be a better choice for a cold-hardy Citrus tree that produces really tasty fruit. On the right rootstock (e.g. Poncirus trifoliata), mature trees are reputed to be frost tolerant down to −8°C (17°F) or lower.
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