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Chris Sturgeon wrote:Great re-post, Karol.
This chart makes earth and/or dense brick-work look like pretty good options... unless you have a handy source of molybdenum in your neighborhood!
*edit for spelling (guess what word).
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Chris Sturgeon wrote:
If your purpose was to extract as much heat out of your exhaust as possible and to radiate it (over a short period of time) into your living/work space, then....
Has any one played with conductive (let's say molybdenum, for laughs) fins, spikes, etc surrounding their exhaust pipe to move the heat more uniformly into their mass?
Aaron Esch wrote:
I'm thinking it might be a good idea to build the RMH in the basement since my entire basement is made of a gigantic thermal mass of concrete.
Scott Perkins wrote:Certainly there could be a lot of difficulties but water stores more heat per volume than just about anything else. If you can find
a way to keep things water tight, running chimney exhaust pipe through water would store the most heat in the smallest volume.
That means if you had enough more water, it would take more energy and longer to heat it up but it would give out more heat
over a longer period of time. A decade or two ago, I remember a guy that had thousands of two liter bottles in a space under the floor
that he pushed hot air through and there were his thermal storage battery.
karol kerl wrote:
Chris Sturgeon wrote:Great re-post, Karol.
This chart makes earth and/or dense brick-work look like pretty good options... unless you have a handy source of molybdenum in your neighborhood!
*edit for spelling (guess what word).
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Molybdenum cannot store much heat, like any metal.
By looking at both charts it is quite obvious, that high thermal conductivity and high specific heat capacity are mutually exclusive.
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allen lumley wrote:We all have a tendency to take Ianto Evans Book 'Rocket Mass Heaters' as bible verse, some of us more unquestioning than others, that having been said, the book says that any thing that causes turbulence at the j-bend of the combustion tube is good, that which causes turbulence in the piping in the thermal mass is bad ! We need more research on this ! A.L.
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One other option to reduce weight, while maintaining good heating performance, is to make some room-air channels underneath the bench and up the wall behind it. This turns your radiant heat source into a combined radiant/convective heat source. Masonry spacers with masonry board or pavers above are my first choice; skinny cinderblock might work OK too.
Scott Perkins wrote:Thanks for the effort to load this Nice list but I think it is a list of "heat conductivity" and NOT heat thermal mass capability.
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Greg Harvey wrote:How about driveway 'chat'? We typically use a finely ground limestone rock for driveways under 1/2" with the dust included. When it compacts it is almost like concrete. I was thinking of using large rocks as much as possible then filling the gaps with this stuff and tamping it down. It won't get as compressed as when driven on but shouldn't be too bad. Wouldn't this be preferable to pea gravel?
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Erica Wisner wrote:Pea gravel (in our recent Montana experiments) lets a lot of air through, resulting in warm bums faster, but much shorter duration of warmth after the fire is out. Probably would still extend the warmth beyond what you'd expect from a woodstove, but not as long as I've come to expect from solid cob or masonry heaters.
Willie Shannon wrote:
Erica Wisner wrote:Pea gravel (in our recent Montana experiments) lets a lot of air through, resulting in warm bums faster, but much shorter duration of warmth after the fire is out. Probably would still extend the warmth beyond what you'd expect from a woodstove, but not as long as I've come to expect from solid cob or masonry heaters.
Was that with Pea Gravel alone or mixed in with some kind of wonky clay mix?
I was considering pea gravel for my RMH, but wondered about heat release time.
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