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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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Judith Browning wrote:...and maybe not so invasive if the young plants are so hard to establish
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Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
Cj Verde wrote:
Judith Browning wrote:...and maybe not so invasive if the young plants are so hard to establish
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I'm on year 3 and I hope they do better now that I've kicked the poultry out of that paddock for a while.
"We're all just walking each other home." -Ram Dass
"Be a lamp, or a lifeboat, or a ladder."-Rumi
gina kansas wrote:I bought several very healthy young plants and put them in the orchard of my 8b garden, morning shade from the neighbor's hedge, afternoon sun. They struggled pathetically for 2 full seasons until I finally rescued the 2 remaining, thankfully 1 male, as they require male and female pollination. Put them in pots in a warm south facing spot protected from maritime winds ( I'm a mile from the ocean-can see the waves on a rough day) with all day sun and 9 months later they are finally growing. In my experience they are not quite as easy to grow as advertised, the former spot is great for other very happy berries. My winter lows are about 24 and summer averages about 70. I have great luck with other Russian grown plants but am still skeptical as to the future of these berries in my climate.
Judith Browning wrote: bought fresh seed this winter and stratified in damp sand in the refrigerator...there was great germination but I couldn't keep them alive past seed leaves. I found they are really susceptable to damping off so next year I will try a layer of sand on top and more ventilation. I think they are worth growing...and maybe not so invasive if the young plants are so hard to establish.
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Deb Stephens wrote:
gina kansas wrote:I bought several very healthy young plants and put them in the orchard of my 8b garden, morning shade from the neighbor's hedge, afternoon sun. They struggled pathetically for 2 full seasons until I finally rescued the 2 remaining, thankfully 1 male, as they require male and female pollination. Put them in pots in a warm south facing spot protected from maritime winds ( I'm a mile from the ocean-can see the waves on a rough day) with all day sun and 9 months later they are finally growing. In my experience they are not quite as easy to grow as advertised, the former spot is great for other very happy berries. My winter lows are about 24 and summer averages about 70. I have great luck with other Russian grown plants but am still skeptical as to the future of these berries in my climate.
Judith Browning wrote: bought fresh seed this winter and stratified in damp sand in the refrigerator...there was great germination but I couldn't keep them alive past seed leaves. I found they are really susceptable to damping off so next year I will try a layer of sand on top and more ventilation. I think they are worth growing...and maybe not so invasive if the young plants are so hard to establish.
Wow -- sounds like they are going to be a bit harder to establish than I thought. Awhile back my husband bought some seeds and got almost 100% germination, but after they got about 2" tall -- still with only seedling leaves -- they all mysteriously died. I thought maybe we had done something really wrong, but maybe they are just harder to grow than we bargained for. Those of you who have had success, what sort of soil mix and temperatures did you use? We used our ordinary garden soil (which is really good for everything else, being loamy, fine textured and fertile after a lot of years adding compost and other organic improvements), but might a soil-less mix maybe work better? The seeds are so expensive and the packets are usually only about 20 seeds, so unless some kind soul has some to donate (in exchange for something I have perhaps?) I really hate to waste time experimenting. I would rather be surer of the best culture method before starting them. Regardless of what the official info says, I find the hands on experience of other gardeners more valuable. Especially if you live in zone 7a (Ozarks) like I do.
Iterations are fine, we don't have to be perfect
My project thread
Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
My project thread
Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
My project thread
Agriculture collects solar energy two-dimensionally; but silviculture collects it three dimensionally.
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