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Cheap Husky and Stihl chainsaw clones/knock offs, should you buy?

 
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Walt Chase wrote:Devin as far as your chainsaw mill.  I completely understand about the expense of the thing.  Have you ever run a chainsaw mill?  It, from what I understand is back breaking work and they are pretty hard on a chainsaw too.  I want to suggest that you go to the  forestry forum ( http://forestryforum.com/ ) and do some reading in the sawmills and sawing section there.  Most of the guys have Woodmizer or one of the other big name brands, but there are some that have some of the lower priced mills and have had good luck with them.  I'll also suggest that you look at the Woodmizer LT15 mills.  While more expensive than your chainsaw mill I think you would be better served by saving your pennies a bit longer and getting  one of them.  I personally have a Woodmizer LT28.  Was planning on a LT15, but when weighing the pros and cons decided to go with the LT 28.  Yes it was expensive, but has not given me a minutes trouble and from what I understand the customer service, which I have yet to use, it second to none.  One other thing I have gleaned from the Forestry forum is that if and when you decide you no longer need a sawmill the Woodmizer has an excellent resale value.



I had a chainsaw mill and was pretty quick to give that nonsense up. I always joked, "you start sawing a board today, and finish it tomorrow"...yeah that slow. And it was very wasteful. Where as a bandsaw mill is about 1/16 of an inch in kerf, a chainsaw mill is 3/8. That is HUGE, especially if you are using smaller logs, and as we all know, even the biggest tree tapers, and so small logs are at the top of the tree. To put that in perspective though, for every 16 boards sawn on a bandsaw mill, one board is lost to sawdust. With a chainsaw mill, for every three boards cut on a chainsaw mill, one is lost to sawdust. That is a LOT of sawdust, and a huge loss in lumber.

On bandsaws, Woodmizer is king, but at all costs stay away from Norwood...they are pure JUNK! There are really two happy days in a man's life: The day they marry their wife, and the day some sucker buys their Norwood Bandsaw Mill and it is being towed off the homestead!
 
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I heard the Chinese Knock Off chainsaws are pretty good. I do not have one, but I might consider buying one. There is no possibly way it could be any worse than my worst purchase I have ever made: A Husqvarna 562 Chainsaw. I call it my Forever-Crank. From rattled off bolts, to never starting, it is $750 of pure JUNK. It is however, out in the woods everyday...ever since it would not start and I finally threw it over the brush pile.

As for Harbor Freight, I actually like their tools and go there often, but this is what I have found. They are the place to go for seldom used tools. For instance, I am not a mechanic, but sometimes I need an impact gun. So I have a cheap Harbor Freight one. If I was a diesel mechanic, yeah I would have a Snap On tool, but for the occasional stuck bolt, my Harbor Freight impact wrench has served me well, and for 20 years. And so because of a lack of daily use, I would never buy an expensive snap on impact wrench, but rather than go without, I buy cheaper since I am using it less frequently.

Harbor Freight has really enabled me to get far more tools due to their price, and lets be honest, we could barely stand up on two feet, much less be on top of the food chain if we were not capable of devising tools and using them.
 
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huztl prices cant be beat, the carburetors i've had good luck with also the honda gx gas tanks are a super bargain
i'm guessing this is where a lot of ebay and amazon sellers get their inventory. some expert saw repair people got together with them and supposedly the stihl parts are pretty good, again price can't be beat. if using piston/cylinder kit i would install caber rings
many of the plastic parts are exact copies of oem, i've read that some of the gas filters for 1/4 line fall apart at the seam
maybe they got this straightened out.
 
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I might hold off...

I have never had a Norwood Chainsaw mill, but I have had a Norwood bigger sawmill and di not like it at all. It is why I no longer have it, and I have had a chainsaw mill too. I would think the Norwood Chainsaw mill would be the worst of both.

You have to be careful of any youtube video praising Norwood's too because that is how they do advertisements. They give Norwood Owner's thousands of dollars worth of upgrades so they say great things about the sawmill.

But I think a better approach to sawmills is to buy a Harbor Freight bandsaw mill. They have great reviews, it is only $2000, and it is a bandsaw mill, so you will save a lot in wood waste. I mean 3/8 of an inch is a lot. That means you lose one board for every three you cut. With a bandsaw mill, you lose one board to sawdust for every sixteen you cut. That is a lot less sawdust, and a pile of more boards. And for what you have in the new chainsaw, and the sawmill, you will be well over the $2000 for the Harbor Freight Sawmill.

I plan to buy one soon myself. I am going to mount the bandsaw on my homemade chainsaw mill giving me the best of both worlds; a bandsaw type of cut, and yet a 24 foot long bed. For $2000 I do not think I can beat the price.
 
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As for chainsaws, I have had both Stihl and Husky, and prefer Stihl. They say the quality is going down, but I just do not see it.

I got a Husqvarna 562 XP now, and it is sideways-junk. I talked to another logger and he did not like it either. I call it my forever crank because it just does not want to run. It is okay on a cold start, but for a warm start...forget it. It lacks power too, and rattles a lot. I really cannot begin to say enough bad about it...

I really miss my Stihl.

I did not trade it in though, nope I ran over it accidentally with a skidder. I go to church, but on that day, I said some bad words. In fact, I might have said several in a row. It was a sad, sad, day.
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I bought my holzfforma g372xp last year around Black Friday for $170 the full assembled powerhead without the bar and chain after watching afleetcommand’s videos because I was in the market for a new saw but didn’t have new saw money got it took it out of the box put the bigger dogs and a 24inch forester bar and full chisel chain and I run my saws a lot and I’m not the easiest on them but it’s been running fantastic for a year now with 0 issues besides having to make the Oiler slot slightly bigger saw runs great and pulls the 24 setup beautifully absolutely love it being around my area a new 372 x torque is about $1200 actually just ordered the 65cc regular g372 last week but I don’t recommend buying this saw unless your willing to maybe have to work out a few kinks to save some money. Otherwise a great saw. I’m actually thinking about purchasing the ms660 Holzfforma knockoff next depending on if this new saw runs as good as the first one I ordered. The only reason I ended up buying the g372xp is because I’ve had nothing but Sthils my whole life and I wanted to give a husky a try but a new husky is so expensive and all the used ones I found were beat up bad so I did some research and stumbled upon holzfforma.
 
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Are there knockoffs of the smaller 40-45cc saws?
 
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Joshua Soom wrote:I bought my holzfforma g372xp last year around Black Friday for $170 the full assembled powerhead without the bar and chain after watching afleetcommand’s videos because I was in the market for a new saw but didn’t have new saw money got it took it out of the box put the bigger dogs and a 24inch forester bar and full chisel chain and I run my saws a lot and I’m not the easiest on them but it’s been running fantastic for a year now with 0 issues besides having to make the Oiler slot slightly bigger saw runs great and pulls the 24 setup beautifully absolutely love it being around my area a new 372 x torque is about $1200 actually just ordered the 65cc regular g372 last week but I don’t recommend buying this saw unless your willing to maybe have to work out a few kinks to save some money. Otherwise a great saw. I’m actually thinking about purchasing the ms660 Holzfforma knockoff next depending on if this new saw runs as good as the first one I ordered. The only reason I ended up buying the g372xp is because I’ve had nothing but Sthils my whole life and I wanted to give a husky a try but a new husky is so expensive and all the used ones I found were beat up bad so I did some research and stumbled upon holzfforma.



That is good information to know.

I like my Stihl's, but the 565 XP Husqvarna I got was not worth buying. It is a rattle box, underpowered. hates to start when it is warm, and did I mention it is wayyyyyyyyyy underpowered? I not-so-affectionately call it my Forever-Crank. Other loggers in the area have had them too and they say the same thing; a junk chainsaw.

The dealer told me they were "disposable saws" and he was right. I will never buy another Husqvarna chainsaw for as long as I live!

But if those Holzfforma saws work pretty good, it would be nice to get one or two of them and just use them out on the landing or something. I am slogging through the mud now really, really bad. We had a few inches of rain, then 8 inches of snow, then last night a few more inches of rain...and plenty of melted snow. It is just running in streams down the skidder ruts! I am getting the wood out, but I wait until I am done for the day to saw the logs on the landing because I would be filing my saw every twitch from the mud. It would be nice to have a second saw, but one that was in the 70 cc range, to buck the logs up without me caring too much about the saw.

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Ive got this fake Stihl for just 45 dollars brand new.Literally cheaper than an axe and it works great,always starts at first pull and after quite a lot of heavy use it still starts that fast and has good compression.
Everybody thinks its original but i say its is not ( doesnt have the original caps for chain oil and gasoline mix,the handles are not as rugged as an original Stihl( it has stihl and husqwarna features in it actually,like the clutch its husqwarna,otther parrs are stihl and otthers are chinese).
Initially i bought this cheap saw to turn it into a trencher and to mount a motorcycle chain with somme big teeth on it and a gear reductor.
The trencher i needed it to install undergroud irrigation pipes.
If i do make a trencher out of it then it will probably put the expensive chainsaws to shame because i cant think of a harder work for a chainsaw than to dig soil trenches.
They are good,not as high quality as an original stihl but they do the work.
The fact that it has Stihl labels on it its not fair but its not the chinese that put these labels .Polish order the chainsaws and the labels separatedly from China and they put them together in Poland.
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