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I bought a dump truck last year with the idea of bringing top soil from the lab to basecamp to build lots of hugelkultur beds. Shit happened. We hope to get the dump truck back in a week or so and try to finish these.

Last year we did harvest some pork that was raised here.

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Back to the topic at hand: one of the big functions of these new items is to leverage retail vectors to infect more brains with permaculture. But it would seem that I have not yet figured that out.
 
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I added a little more to the description. What do you think?
 
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paul wheaton wrote:I added a little more to the description. What do you think?



Much cleaner and easier to read!
 
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I am slightly confused; is just the one with Paul's amazon link being edited or are all three of them being edited? Does Paul own all three of the playing cards listed on amazon? If Paul owns all three of those links, could each one's description, price, tags, etc. possibly be adjusted differently as kinda an experiment to see what works best?

The set of cards with the amazon link from Paul's permies page about the cards (listed on amazon as by Paul Wheaton and Alexander Ojeda and priced at $14.95), I notice has definitely changed and looks much easier to read from before:


~52 regular playing cards, plus two jokers, plus a bonus card
~each card has an interesting tidbit about permaculture
~26 cards have a name hidden on them and one card has a hidden needle
~special markings for the suicide king and the one eyed jacks
~Bicycle quality cards, made in the USA



I am unsure if the information on the amazon link for permaculture playing cards (listed on amazon as by Permies and priced at $18.48) has changed or not:


~Made in the USA
~Educational
~Bicycle quality cards
~Provides the big picture of Permaculture in a small package
~For all ages



Also, I do not know if the information on this amazon link (listed on amazon as by Liberty Playing Cards and priced at $29.95) has changed or not:

You are looking to buy 1 brand new deck of Permaculture Playing Cards Printed by Liberty Playing Cards. 54 cards of permaculture information. Each card represents many hours of arguing over the tiniest details. One of the questions we are asked repeatedly is "How do you tell people what permaculture is?" If you give them a book, they might look at a few pictures. If you send them a link to something they tend to save it for later. The idea of the deck of cards is that they might browse it like a book - but this is all pictures and just a few words. Much easier to browse. And hopefully convey a bigger picture in a smaller package. When you are bonkers about permaculture, your friends and family tend to think you are crazy .... if only there were a way to help them understand your passion better ..... while at the same time resolving your winter gift giving obligations. :)



If I remember correctly, I think i read somewhere about people having bought bricks of cards from Paul and going off selling them. Are those what the other two links are?
 
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When the time came to decide how many cards to print, I thought that it was possible that there could be people that would resell the cards, so I sold the cards by the case. But rather than 50 cases, it was more like 6 cases. So, those people set up stuff to also sell the cards.
 
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I'd happily buy some and spread the word if they could be got outside the US at a reasonable price.
 
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We just sent 144 to norway.
 
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I saw that some people on fiverr were advertising to put an amazon product on their wish list from like 1000 different accounts or something. I was curious if people know if this would actually have an effect on the amazon list ranking.. I asked one of the fiverr people advertising to do this sort of thing and he replied with this: "While putting a product on different wish list, one has to search the product with a specific keyword, while searching he has to use different IP and different user each time. This cause a trafficking and also promotion effort. Besides, amazon sees a lot of people is interested in this product."

Do people think this would work?
 
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Also, someone emailed this one in and couldn't post it but said I could for them.

"Recently someone with a big list and a granddaughter who had written a book-sent out a request to buy the book for 99 cents-and her affiliates sent out the same message-so the kid probably got way up there on the rankings without really earning it-nepotism at work.
What if we all agree to search for the cards everytime we shop on Amazon-does just recently viewed help at all?"

 
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I was already thinking about these cards a fair bit thanks to this thread and since I already mentioned a getting bloggers to post about them for you, I took the initiative to go ahead and post to my own blog. Mother Earth Monday is the ideal time for such topics anyway! Hope you don't mind Paul. I made sure to include links to both Permies and to your Amazon account. Feel free to look it over if you like via this link. Hope it drives some more traffic your way and sells a few more decks. These things are stunning and deserve more attention.
 
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I sold a few things on Amazon but not much & gave up .. in fact i was recently contacted about a signed Clerks VHS i had listed .. it had sold but it's been so long since I listed i don't know where it is ... I found ebay to be easier .. Amazon is so vast !! If you aren;t on the first page good luck .. tho i know there are people who supposedly know how to get you on the 1st page
 
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Rule #1, The Algorithm On Amazon.. DO NOT SEARCH for Pauls cards, click on the link and THEN NOT BUY.. that hugely effects where those cards Rank.

Running Ads on FB has been a popular way for people to get people to click through to buy the cards..

Creating a coupon landing page, where people can get the coupon code to apply to buy can stimulate sales

Getting reviews, so if anyone here has purchased the cards, and not left a review do that NOW.. go to your account and to to your purchase and write the review so that is shows verified purchase on it.

Get ready to promote heavily as we move into Fall, some people play cards while they are camping but really cards are sort of an Autumn and wintery thing to do.. so be ready to promote as you go into Fall and especially be ready to go for Black Friday. Also contacting The Good Food Store and Whole Foods and Trader Joes and those types of stores NOW, can help you get into their stores for Xmas..

Sell MORE than one thing on Amazon..and tie them together..

Just my two cents on this.
 
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"Rule #1, The Algorithm On Amazon.. DO NOT SEARCH for Pauls cards, click on the link and THEN NOT BUY.. that hugely effects where those cards Rank. "

What if we all ganged up to see if it is possible to make an impact in this way ? You've got thousands of followers Paul .. could work .. I'm willing to be a guinea pig to see if it does .. I'm trying to start a group here that does the same sorta thing where we gang up to support good things as that i one way I feel change will happen ... we are to individualized .. spread out ... if can unite for some small things we can target all at once .. we can feel the greatest impact we can have & that'll then encourage more of the same type of behavior ... we have all the power ... I wish people would learn this ...
 
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Wow, the cards dropped in price on Amazon to $12.95. Here is a tip, camelcamelcamel.com is a site where you can check the price history of Amazon products so that you can make sure you are getting the lowest price. I have it track products I would like to buy so when amazon drops a product to a price range I am willing to pay then I get an email.
 
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I don't think this addresses the question directly, but I'm sometimes an Amazon seller and I just received an email from them mentioning a few ways to improve your traffic. Not exactly Amazon tricks, but maybe helpful, so here it is:


• #AmazonCart allows you to promote Amazon listings on Twitter and help drive sales. Customers can add products they see on Twitter to their Amazon.com shopping carts without leaving Twitter.
• Create a Promotion: Adding an incentive—such as Buy One Get One, a discount, or other benefit upon purchase—can improve order conversion.
• Market Your Products on Facebook: Now, more than ever, e-commerce sellers are leveraging Facebook's power to promote their products.

These items were links, but they are long promo looking links, so if you're interested, you're probably better off searching for info, but I'd be glad to forward the email if anyone's interested in those links.

Also, I wrote a 5-star review of the cards, hope it helps.

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