mike jastram wrote:Paul, do you think there's a high/low thermometer at base camp that I can use?
Susan Doyon wrote:will you be adding a rocket heater ? temps indoors seem a bit low for comfort .
The curtained bed, the night clothes and night cap are not new.
I was about to mention the awesome hottie
Sue Rine wrote:We had two hotwater bottles each, one for feet and one for body
Mike Cantrell wrote:Tee hee, in America, "hotties" are attractive women. Also effective for keeping warm in bed, but not nearly so convenient.
Sue Rine wrote:we don't have snow every year, but it was often hard to get the temperature above 10 deg C, (don't know how that converts to Fahrenheit).
paul wheaton wrote:
Maybe we need to shift the test for the first year: put together a shippable core and run a rocket heater (no mass). I suspect that the space will be really hard to heat as the mass absorbs a lot of heat. And then if you get the mass up to a comfortable temperature, you might be able to go several days without running the heater. The upside of this is that you can heat the space and have people in there at the same time. Plus no moisture buildup.
mike jastram wrote:Nope, just annualized thermal inertia using passive ambient conductive gain.
This is likely our last temperature reading for a bit. Jesse's moving down the hill and we're moving onto tim and kristie's magic sofa which runs about 110 degrees. We are, as always, much obliged to them for their generosity.
Base camp is in progress of inventing some sort of heat source for us. We might be moving back in sometime later.
paul wheaton wrote:I had some math rolling through my head this morning.
So, I have two conclusions:
1) If we make no further changes to the wofati, we will need supplemental heat.
2) I'm already thinking of design improvements to get us closer to the goal of needing no heat. It is possible that we can make the improvements and even though there is supplemental heat in there that we don't need it.
This would suggest that the inside should be more closely connected to the mass (there are problems with this) and the non-mass walls should be supper insulated
The second thing is that right now there seems to be only good guess as to mass temperature, not measured values.
I think in some areas it would be helpful to make use of solar gain during the summer to overheat part of the mass such that the heat arrives at the living space at the coldest time of year.
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