Permaculture Magazine, North America! (cassie's new endeavor)

Anne Wilson wrote:

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:I went to subscribe but Firefox told me that it is not a secured website (and no https in the url) so I didn't feel safe to enter my info. Can you make it a secure site? I would love to subscribe! And congratulations, it looks FANTASTIC! Lucky us that you did this.

Hi Anne,

I'm not sure why it is saying it isn't secure. Where did you get that message? Just when you went to the homepage?

Regarding not having http in the url, try this: http://permaculturemag.org/

Hi Cassie,
For a website to be secure according to my (very limited!) knowledge it has to say https:// note the "s" which is missing from your link that you gave me there. So it is possible for any web-savvy person to get the info that anyone enters on that page. I went ahead and took my chances anyway as paypal is secure and I just hope that my name and address and email, phone etc don't get picked up by anyone from the sign up page and sold or misused. You might want to ask your web expert about this.

Thanks for that. I will keep looking into this. But as it turns out, I am my web expert. LOL I built my entire website by myself, but I am definitely NO expert, so I am just trying to figure everything out myself, so it might take some time. Thanks for trusting it.

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Cory Dochow wrote:I'm excited to see this come together! I subscribed ~45 minutes ago and immediately received payment confirmation from PayPal but so far no email from PMNA. Is the email with instructions for accessing back issues of Permaculture UK and confirmation of whether I was one of the first 50 subscribers sent out automatically, or is that an offline process that takes more time?

Thanks,

Cory

It should have been sent out automatically. Sometimes it takes a bit. Have you still not received it? I see your order.

Hi Cassie,

No, I still have not received the order confirmation email from PMNA. I will email you at permaculturemag.org so we can troubleshoot outside of this thread.

Thanks,

Cory

Laura Emil wrote:excited to see the 'return of Cassie', and I'm in! (though not without tech difficulties. for my ebook, registered w/newsociety but their download link isn't working - sent a note, we'll see... also need to WAIT for my access to 87 back issues, "will be active within 24-48 hours..." grrr, I'm sooooo impatient! guess I need to go to WORK this morning instead of getting lost in reading.)
looking forward to learning! (and still have land to share if someone is looking for a place in northeastern PA - see https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-Cs2d6m/ )

Hi Laura,

I got a message from New Society about how they were fulfilling the orders for ebooks this morning, so if you still haven't got this taken care of, let me know and I can figure it out.

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:I went to subscribe but Firefox told me that it is not a secured website (and no https in the url) so I didn't feel safe to enter my info. Can you make it a secure site? I would love to subscribe! And congratulations, it looks FANTASTIC! Lucky us that you did this.

Hi Anne,

I'm not sure why it is saying it isn't secure. Where did you get that message? Just when you went to the homepage?

Regarding not having http in the url, try this: http://permaculturemag.org/

Hi Cassie,
For a website to be secure according to my (very limited!) knowledge it has to say https:// note the "s" which is missing from your link that you gave me there. So it is possible for any web-savvy person to get the info that anyone enters on that page. I went ahead and took my chances anyway as paypal is secure and I just hope that my name and address and email, phone etc don't get picked up by anyone from the sign up page and sold or misused. You might want to ask your web expert about this.

Thanks for that. I will keep looking into this. But as it turns out, I am my web expert. LOL I built my entire website by myself, but I am definitely NO expert, so I am just trying to figure everything out myself, so it might take some time. Thanks for trusting it.

Wow well congratulations on the beautiful website Cassie, it is gorgeous. The not secure part when asking for people's info is scary to me though! This link is helpful:
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6073543?hl=en

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:I went to subscribe but Firefox told me that it is not a secured website (and no https in the url) so I didn't feel safe to enter my info. Can you make it a secure site? I would love to subscribe! And congratulations, it looks FANTASTIC! Lucky us that you did this.

Hi Anne,

I'm not sure why it is saying it isn't secure. Where did you get that message? Just when you went to the homepage?

Regarding not having http in the url, try this: http://permaculturemag.org/

Hi Cassie,
For a website to be secure according to my (very limited!) knowledge it has to say https:// note the "s" which is missing from your link that you gave me there. So it is possible for any web-savvy person to get the info that anyone enters on that page. I went ahead and took my chances anyway as paypal is secure and I just hope that my name and address and email, phone etc don't get picked up by anyone from the sign up page and sold or misused. You might want to ask your web expert about this.

Thanks for that. I will keep looking into this. But as it turns out, I am my web expert. LOL I built my entire website by myself, but I am definitely NO expert, so I am just trying to figure everything out myself, so it might take some time. Thanks for trusting it.

To add to the HTTPS comments, it is a best practice to use httpS whenever personal information is entered (name, address, email, etc), and absolutely critical when entering things like passwords or credit card numbers. The check out page is not using the secure protocol but once you jump into PayPal it switches to httpS. It would be better if the check out page (http://permaculturemag.org/checkout/) was changed to use httpS so the session is encrypted when users enter their billing/shipping info. For this to happen you will need to purchase/setup a SSL certificate that basically ties an encryption key to the permacultremag.org site to secure it. Too much to discuss in this thread but there are lots of good resources out on the web. I suspect you could also have PayPal collect the billing/shipping address and not have to worry about securing it yourself.

Shodo Spring wrote:How will it be different from Permaculture Design (formerly Permaculture Activist)?

That is a great question Shodo.

Since they got taken over by new management, I am unsure of what their new publication will be like. But I do know that in the past their magazine has been more bare bones aesthetically, no color, newspaper type feel.

Also, they do not have a digital subscription option. That alone is a big difference.

(This brings me to other folk's question about digital only subscriptions.

YES THERE WILL BE DIGITAL ONLY SUBSCRIPTIONS AVAILABLE IN JUNE!

The website/company that will be hosting the digital subscriptions cannot sell subscriptions when there isn't one available yet. That's the only reason.


Back to Permaculture Design: They charge for all their back issues, while we include all of PMUK’s 24 years of back issues (digital) for free with the purchase of a subscription to PMNA.

Also, The Permaculture Activist has followed the format of a specific topic per issue, with in depth coverage, designed for the very knowledgeable person in permaculture. Their articles are often quite technical, appealing to the very advanced in this niche. Like I said, their content of the magazine is in black and white, and on paper with a similar texture to newspaper. PMNA will follow PMUK’s eye-catching design and style recognized around the world, with color photos, advertisements, and artwork throughout the magazine. Our articles are also more broad reaching, covering a variety of topics each issue, including ones for the novice and and the professional permaculturist, creating a much broader appeal to the permies.

Cory Dochow wrote:

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:I went to subscribe but Firefox told me that it is not a secured website (and no https in the url) so I didn't feel safe to enter my info. Can you make it a secure site? I would love to subscribe! And congratulations, it looks FANTASTIC! Lucky us that you did this.

Hi Anne,

I'm not sure why it is saying it isn't secure. Where did you get that message? Just when you went to the homepage?

Regarding not having http in the url, try this: http://permaculturemag.org/

Hi Cassie,
For a website to be secure according to my (very limited!) knowledge it has to say https:// note the "s" which is missing from your link that you gave me there. So it is possible for any web-savvy person to get the info that anyone enters on that page. I went ahead and took my chances anyway as paypal is secure and I just hope that my name and address and email, phone etc don't get picked up by anyone from the sign up page and sold or misused. You might want to ask your web expert about this.

Thanks for that. I will keep looking into this. But as it turns out, I am my web expert. LOL I built my entire website by myself, but I am definitely NO expert, so I am just trying to figure everything out myself, so it might take some time. Thanks for trusting it.

To add to the HTTPS comments, it is a best practice to use httpS whenever personal information is entered (name, address, email, etc), and absolutely critical when entering things like passwords or credit card numbers. The check out page is not using the secure protocol but once you jump into PayPal it switches to httpS. It would be better if the check out page (http://permaculturemag.org/checkout/) was changed to use httpS so the session is encrypted when users enter their billing/shipping info. For this to happen you will need to purchase/setup a SSL certificate that basically ties an encryption key to the permacultremag.org site to secure it. Too much to discuss in this thread but there are lots of good resources out on the web. I suspect you could also have PayPal collect the billing/shipping address and not have to worry about securing it yourself.

Yes I think Paypal will get all that info for you so none of it has to be entered on your order page. That would probably be easier than learning all about SSL certificates. (At least it would be for me as I am no web expert!) Thanks for explaining it so much better than I could Cory.

Alright, I will look into figuring all of that out this afternoon.

Thanks for all the guidance everyone!

But I do know that in the past their magazine has been more bare bones aesthetically, no color, newspaper type feel.
Thanks. I think they've upgraded a bit, but I like the newspaper. Though I haven't been willing to burn or compost it.

Also, they do not have a digital subscription option. That alone is a big difference.

Also, The Permaculture Activist has followed the format of a specific topic per issue, with in depth coverage, designed for the very knowledgeable person in permaculture. Their articles are often quite technical, appealing to the very advanced in this niche. Like I said, their content of the magazine is in black and white, and on paper with a similar texture to newspaper. PMNA will follow PMUK’s eye-catching design and style recognized around the world, with color photos, advertisements, and artwork throughout the magazine. Our articles are also more broad reaching, covering a variety of topics each issue, including ones for the novice and and the professional permaculturist, creating a much broader appeal to the permies.

Well, that explains why there are and should be two! I have always been involved with Permaculture Design since my first PDC (and save my back issues for library use) but recognize that you are offering something that reaches out more - a worthy service! And obviously digital is extremely useful. Best wishes - though not needed.

Thanks for the help regarding the HTTPS stuff everyone, I just bought an SSL certificate, and my host is activating it as we speak.

This might take a day or two, but it should be all secure soon!

Any chance there might be some kind of advertising deal for pie holders? *wink*wink*

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Donna Zee wrote:

Julia Winter wrote:check your email - I got an email with a link to the book

It's been a few hours since I subscribed. I received a payment confirmation email from PayPal immediately, but haven't received any other email regarding the subscription. Maybe it needs to be done manually and will happen later on today.

Hi Donna,

Have you still not received the email? I don't see an order with your name on it. You can email me at cassie AT permaculturemag DOT org if it still hasn't came.

Hi Cassie,

I just sent you an email explaining that I have not received an email regarding the subscription.

Thanks!

My site is officially secure!!

Thanks everyone for keeping me in line.


https://permaculturemag.org/

EDIT: firefox hates me... everywhere else says its secure, but firefox says my photos arent secure.. whatever that means.. Ugh.. back to the drawing board..

Cassie Langstraat wrote:My site is officially secure!!

Thanks everyone for keeping me in line.


https://permaculturemag.org/

EDIT: firefox hates me... everywhere else says its secure, but firefox says my photos arent secure.. whatever that means.. Ugh.. back to the drawing board..

Whoa you are smart and fast Cassie! Btw my Firefox loves your site now and considers it secure. Firefox 44.0.2 on Windows 7. (I am not sure if I need to update but this version that I have loves your site)

VICTORY IS MINE! I conquered the security issue with firefox. I'm ACTUALLY secure now!

I'm in! Can't wait to see it!

I've subscribed simply because Cassie has asked me to do so ... does that mean I'm a pushover?

Honestly, I can't wait. I'm extremely stingy and generally don't subscribe to ANYTHING that costs money, but this is one of those rare moments when I look at the price and, knowing where it's going and what I'll be getting out of it, I had no problem sending away my hard-earned "ones and zeros".

Firefox is the pickiest of the popular modern browsers when it comes to security and privacy, which is why I use it extensively (I'm a "web dev" guy in the few hours a day I actually earn money...even have a special hat I put on when I'm working!). Chrome is easier to work with for styling and debugging javascript since firebug went wonky a year ago, but firefox is handsdown the best at schooling us on how to treat our users with respect

I saw someone else mentioned the font being a little less than readable - for me it's readable but not so easy on the eyes in some places. Might be a taste preference but Marvel seems a little less than ideal in bold/white on the darker backgrounds. Still a great design overall - only thing I'm silently screaming about is the lack of hover effect on the image links I've always been partial to the transparent overlay with zoom effect like the ".overlay-fade-in" found here: http://zurb.com/building-blocks/image-hover-effects

Oh, and there's a knot in my stomach seeing all that white space under the social menu in the header. Excellent place for a log in / my account dealy should you need it at some point

What happened was during the checkout it wouldn't accept the code and demanded credit cards, and had the total as whatever the book costs + shipping. Then the total went to zero (good) and it seemed to accept the code, but nothing would progress and then eventually it displayed a timed out message. I am very minimally ill, and just sleeping around the clock at the moment, so I haven't had time to do it again.

I flagged this message, thinking that was a good thing, but is that flag for more attention in the sense of something needs fixing. I thought with all these apples and pumpkins flying around it was a compliment. Normally one does flag problems... :( Brain not fully wired at moment.

Oooh, this is exciting!

Cassie, when I go to register to read the back issues, I get an error message "Your subscription details were not recognized." For the Subscription Reference, I'm using the order number I got in the email after I subscribed, and am entering the same email address that I subscribed under. I'm using Chrome. Any ideas? Thanks!

Cassie, what's the deal with the digital subscription come the first issue? Will I be able to download and read it offline in epub or pdf on the porcelain throne (or wherever?)?

Tristan Vitali wrote:I've subscribed simply because Cassie has asked me to do so ... does that mean I'm a pushover?

Hahaha whatever you are, pushover or not, I am grateful for it!

Honestly, I can't wait. I'm extremely stingy and generally don't subscribe to ANYTHING that costs money, but this is one of those rare moments when I look at the price and, knowing where it's going and what I'll be getting out of it, I had no problem sending away my hard-earned "ones and zeros".

Firefox is the pickiest of the popular modern browsers when it comes to security and privacy, which is why I use it extensively (I'm a "web dev" guy in the few hours a day I actually earn money...even have a special hat I put on when I'm working!). Chrome is easier to work with for styling and debugging javascript since firebug went wonky a year ago, but firefox is handsdown the best at schooling us on how to treat our users with respect

Exactly! I am glad I finally proved myself to the ol firefox. The only reason I don't use that browser is because I don't like the way the tabs at the top slide out of view when there are a lot of them. Hahaha I know it's neurotic, but I have like 50 tabs open at all times and I like to be able to see all of them.

I saw someone else mentioned the font being a little less than readable - for me it's readable but not so easy on the eyes in some places. Might be a taste preference but Marvel seems a little less than ideal in bold/white on the darker backgrounds. Still a great design overall - only thing I'm silently screaming about is the lack of hover effect on the image links I've always been partial to the transparent overlay with zoom effect like the ".overlay-fade-in" found here: http://zurb.com/building-blocks/image-hover-effects

Oh, and there's a knot in my stomach seeing all that white space under the social menu in the header. Excellent place for a log in / my account dealy should you need it at some point

Yeah, the font is something I might need to change. There have been a few people not super pleased with it, though I have just not had time to look more into in since our launch! hahah Thanks for the feedback through Tristan. I appreciate it.

Hi Tam,

This is a problem with new society, not permaculture magazine, or permies.com. I think it would be best to contact them. I am sorry you are having trouble with this.

Emilie Thomas-Anderson wrote:Oooh, this is exciting!

Cassie, when I go to register to read the back issues, I get an error message "Your subscription details were not recognized." For the Subscription Reference, I'm using the order number I got in the email after I subscribed, and am entering the same email address that I subscribed under. I'm using Chrome. Any ideas? Thanks!

Hi Emily,

In your sales receipt email, it should have had a note in there about it taking about 24 hours at least to get the back issues activated. So that was probably your problem. It should work if you try again now.

Roger Taylor wrote:Cassie, what's the deal with the digital subscription come the first issue? Will I be able to download and read it offline in epub or pdf on the porcelain throne (or wherever?)?

Hi Roger,

As I said in my response here, there will be digital subscriptions available in june. The website that is hosting our digital subscriptions cannot set up my account with them until I actually have a digital magazine to upload, which won't be until June.

Cassie Langstraat wrote:

Roger Taylor wrote:Cassie, what's the deal with the digital subscription come the first issue? Will I be able to download and read it offline in epub or pdf on the porcelain throne (or wherever?)?

Hi Roger,

As I said in my response here, there will be digital subscriptions available in june. The website that is hosting our digital subscriptions cannot set up my account with them until I actually have a digital magazine to upload, which won't be until June.

Right, but I was wondering what a "digital subscription" actually was. It may be downloadable ebooks, or it may be some awkward app that we're all forced to use.

Ahhhh! Sorry. So much going on in my brain. Yes, the issues will be downloadable. You will also be able to read them in an awkward app if you want to.

Michael Newby wrote:Any chance there might be some kind of advertising deal for pie holders? *wink*wink*

That is a GREAT idea! Will go do it right now.

Cassie Langstraat wrote:The only reason I don't use that browser is because I don't like the way the tabs at the top slide out of view when there are a lot of them. Hahaha I know it's neurotic, but I have like 50 tabs open at all times and I like to be able to see all of them.

Same here on that one. Also *needed* functions like "duplicate tab", "move to new window" and the ability to lock and freeze tabs so they wouldn't get accidentally closed or automatically reloaded while I was working on something else. I went looking and found some "appropriate technology": Tab Mix Plus. Tons of sweet features with it including the ability to save and reload sessions which is awesomely handy when you're eyeball deep in a permie-research binge but have to shut down because the battery bank is getting tired.

Just to let everyone know, we list any PDC or intro to permaculture course for free in our magazine.


Click here for details.

Just subscribed. Yippee!

Just a heads-up note, Cassie. When my Paypal payment email came through there was no mention anywhere of the digital download of the Mother magazine. (I had read up higher in the comments that someone should get that.) So it is a bit confusing. I take it from reading the previous comments that it will take a day for the digital downloads to become available but there should be a mention of it in that payment email. Also, in the section on the page when you says "we thought you should have something to read now", it would be nice to have a note that said (if that's the case) that you won't be able to access those downloads for 24 hours.

My two cents. Looking forward to June and reading the magazine.

Aah! An email come AFTER. Sorry picking nits. Onward!

Susan Taylor Brown wrote:Just a heads-up note, Cassie. When my Paypal payment email came through there was no mention anywhere of the digital download of the Mother magazine. (I had read up higher in the comments that someone should get that.) So it is a bit confusing. I take it from reading the previous comments that it will take a day for the digital downloads to become available but there should be a mention of it in that payment email. Also, in the section on the page when you says "we thought you should have something to read now", it would be nice to have a note that said (if that's the case) that you won't be able to access those downloads for 24 hours.

My two cents. Looking forward to June and reading the magazine.

Aah! An email come AFTER. Sorry picking nits. Onward!

Thank you SO much for subscribing Susan. And thank you for giving feedback! I really do appreciate it, as this is all new to me, and I really love learning how to improve the process.

Your passion will carry you far in this venture, Cassie. I am looking forward to following along.

There is now a DIGITAL ONLY subscription available for purchase! So now all you REALLLLLLY eco-friendly people can jump on board. Only 19 buckeroos for an entire year, including our first issue that just came out!

You still get the bonus 87 back issues from our mother magazine, but only for a limited time!



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Hey! Awesome work... I wonder if you can make your magazine available through my library's magazine app, Zinnio... I don't know how it works, but I know is live to see your rag there!

When I go to the purchase page, it says that issues are also available on android and in the App Store. Does the 'also' mean there is a third option? Also, in the App Store it doesn't access to the 87 back issues. Is that just a failure to mention, or does subscribing via the app not include the back issues?

Polly Oz wrote:When I go to the purchase page, it says that issues are also available on android and in the App Store. Does the 'also' mean there is a third option? Also, in the App Store it doesn't access to the 87 back issues. Is that just a failure to mention, or does subscribing via the app not include the back issues?

There are separate Apps for Permaculture NA and Permaculture International - once you have provided the verifications to the Exact Editions website you can use both apps to read the respective magazines.

I tend to do my e-book reading offline on a pc, after downloading whatever I am reading elsewhere with an affordable internet connection. Their solution for offline reading of an issue, is to allow you to download the pdf of each page separately. This isn't really a viable offline reading option unfortunately.

Other than that, the Exact Edition website looks like one of the nicer online magazine reading websites I've seen, and I've used some terrible ones in the past at former jobs.

Mine came in the mail today!!!
It's wonderful Cassie!
...beautiful job and excellent subjects...now if I can just tear it away from Steve.......

Lindsay Hodge wrote:Hey! Awesome work... I wonder if you can make your magazine available through my library's magazine app, Zinnio... I don't know how it works, but I know is live to see your rag there!

Hi Lindsay,

Thanks for the compliments!

I don't think we will be doing that app through Zinnio, since we are going to have our very own app soon!