grate one bar of fels naptha soap and dissolve it in 4 cups of water on the stovetop. DON'T LET IT BOIL OVER!
in a 5 gallon bucket add one cup of WASHING soda and 1/2 cup of borax with enough warm water to dissolve it.
once everything is dissolved add it together and add cold water to fill the 5 gal bucket.
This will need to be blended (I used an electric drill with a paint stirrer) the next day. This stuff is a concentrate and should be mixed in a recycled laundry soap bottle 50/50 with water.
Use it just like any other laundry liquid. We use it in our front loader machine and it works wonderfully. The bar of soap could also be Kirks Castille. I think you could even use homemade lye soap. There are a couple of options for fabric softener too.
1. White vinegar. Use like any other fabric softener liquid. This is what we use and it works very well.
2. put one bottle of liquid fabric softener into a 5 gal. bucket and top it off with water. mix it up and throw in a couple of sponges. Squeeze out a sponge and throw it in like a dryer sheet.
Both of these are great money saving ideas and I hope in this economy it helps just a little.
The recipe I use is to melt ½ bar of Fels Naptha or Zote in 6 to 8 cups of hot water over steady heat (do not boil). I usually pour hot water into my 6 quart pot, turn on the heat, add grated soap, then bring just to under a boil. Stir, then turn off heat and allow to sit for about 10-15 minutes. The soap will be melted and you haven’t had to babysit it. Then I add ½ cup washing soda and ½ cup borax, stirring well to dissolve, then I divide equally into two empty vinegar or milk jugs (1 gallon size).
I add 2 cups or so of very hot tap water, put lid on tight, give a few vigorous shakes, release lid slowly (the heat will cause pressure in jug). Then I add another 2-3 cups of hot water and repeat the shake, then add remaining water to about 2″ from top. You may have to allow suds to settle some before adding the last cup or two. Give one last shake to mix all ingredients. Allow soap to sit in jugs unlidded until cool. Then replace lid and store in laundry room. This will gel. I usually use the handle of a wooden spoon to break the gel up the first time I open the jug.
You use 1/2 cup to 1 cup per load, depending on size and filth of load. Shake the jug a few times to mix before using.
I have used the bar of Zote as a pretreat 'stick' and have rubbbed the concentrate on big greasy areas on jean before washing. Works good!
I recently made the switch to vinegar as fabric softener. I was surprised at how well it works!
I omit borax when I make laundry soap: it's supposedly harmful to soil life.
My washing comes out clean without it.
Leila, so you just use washing soda and water? Do you add baking soda or anything?
I didn't know borax was harmful to plants until I found this forum. We have a standard septic system, but I always wanted a grey water system. I'll have to figure out a different laundry soap for that.
I'm going to make lotions and moisturisers next......got the bug now
The soap alone didn't shift some stains, but it will be fine for coloureds, delicates, towels and bedding.
Yes, I agree. What has helped me is pretreating stains by rubbing some laundry soap into them or just using the bar of Zote as a stain stick a few minutes before washing. I also found that soaking for a few hours really helps on stain removal.
2 BALLS FOR 14$ - COMES TO PENNIES PER WASH LOAD
They have what is needed for these formulas, and they say it come out to 3, 4, or 15 cents per load, depending on what you use. Compared with store products said to cost $1.50 per load.
I think we have been going overkill with our recipe:
1/4 Bar of Octagon
1 cup washing soda
1 cup Borax
We prepare like the instructions above, but we use this for a one gallon container. We use 1/4 cup per load.
If I want to use Wesley's recipe for a single gallon would it be:
1/5 Bar of FelsNaptha
1/5 Cup of Washing Soda
1/10 Cup of Borax
This would make one gallon concentrate or two gallons of full strength.
A question for Wesley...how much do you use per load of laundry?
Here is a link to our soap making video. It sounds like the same thing many on here posted. Our first video of stuff we do. Just thought we would share it with others.
A question for Wesley...how much do you use per load of laundry?
Sorry I haven't been on in a while. We use about a quarter cup.
dude, it's just pennies per load, so feel free to play around with the amounts. i use a couple cups (bar soap, washing soda, borax recipe) and it rinses easily.
we used this same mixture for our dishwasher for a time and found it left a residue. i plan on making a bar of deoderant this weekend and will experiment with other products in the future, too.
as for savings..........
Tide/or big box store brand-----10 cents per load ------standard recomended measure for full load
home made soap------3 cents per load-------2 cups measured for full load
The washing soda makes the clothes very soft. so no need for softner....at least here with our water situation and being on a well.
The next best way to save money on clothes washing is by not creating so much laundry.....my next mission to be frugal. getting more days wear out of our clothes with out looking grungy......of course I have 2 little boys so that might be a pipe dream...haha
NOTE: This soap will not suds, not even a little, so don't be fooled by looking in the washer and seeing dirty water and think you should add more. It is working fine. Adding too much will leave a soapy residue.
There's dozens of sites with various recipes online. Here's the recipe I've used so far:
---1 whole bar of soap, 4-5 oz., the brand doesn't seem to matter. Personally I dislike the smell of Fels, too chemical-ly. Had a bunch of Irish Spring Blue which smells like 'fresh linen' so I'm using that. (Hint: Use soaps you like the smell of. Don't bother adding essential oils. Too costly, the soap smell overrides it anyway.)
---1 C. Arm & Hammer Washing Soda (can substitute baking soda but it won't gel quite the same. Still works fine, far as I could tell)
---1 C. borax -- If someone could please direct me to posts that 20-Mule-Team borax in greywater is toxic to plants. I've always heard that, too, until I found an Aussie homestead family online who use this soap 20+ years in their greywater direct-to-garden set-up and they laugh when people talk about borax killing plants b'cuz obviously nothing is dying in their fabulous garden with alkaline soils. I'll find the link later. Our greywater is not being used for irrigating yet, but it's always run outside to wild plants that seem unaffected so far.
I don't grate the soap. It cuts nicely into shreds and chunks with a big knife and cutting board. Add it to a qt. of boiling water. Simmer and stir occasionally for 30 min or shut off and let soak till dissolved. Or soak the whole bar for several days and heat when it's dissolved.
Heat a gallon or 2 of water (or use hot tap water). I usually put a gallon on to heat while dealing with the bar soap.
Put the powders in a clean 5-gallon bucket. Add the hot dissolved soap and stir with a long-handled spoon until powders dissolve. (I use plastic, don't want my wooden one soaking up the soap smell) Add the 2 gal. of hot water plus another quart to make 2-1/2 gal. total. Stir.
Let sit overnight (or a couple of days) in the bucket, stirring occasionally and scraping bottom well. Doesn't need covered unless stuff will fall in it. It will gel and take on the color /scent of the bar soap.
I stir it real good one last time and then pour or dip the thickened gel into plastic Folger's coffee cans with lids or 4-qt. ice cream buckets. Diluting or putting this glop into old laundry soap containers seems an unnecessary step.
Use 1/2 c. per large load. I use a ladle which is 1/2 cup, or you can use a laundry scoop or whatever works. Just so you're scooping it out and not pouring it cuz it's a little messy. I have a dish towel under the jug to catch drips and to lay the ladle on.
Here is the math for how much it costs vs. liquid Purex:
An 80-oz. jug of ultra concentrate Purex was about $7.00, probably more now.
So 2-1/2 gallons of Purex would cost $28.
2-1/2 gallons of my homemade soap costs $1.50.
An 80-oz jug of my homemade soap is 37 cents.
That is the kind of math I like.
Also, I have 65 liters of 50% hydrogen peroxide, which I use everywhere from the kitchen to my mouthwash.
Does anyone know a recipe that includes hydrogen peroxide? I heard that at high concentrations it can be used as bleach (40% is what's used to bleach hair). Mine is 50%, but it only bleaches my skin if it touches it, and temporarily.
Anyway, it's still great, especially because here in the tropical forest, by the time the laundry basket is full, the stuff at the bottom is molded, and I wash with cold water to save on the propane...
I just tried a South of France brand 4.25 oz bar of soap and it gelled much harder than the Irish Spring or Fels so I added 1 1/2 gal. more hot water and we'll see how that works.
Does anyone know how to test water for salinity? I want to try some experiments. I can rig up a 'wetlands' and try some plants like cannas and other ornamentals. I'd test the salinity at both ends and the plants too if possible. That's my only real concern with this recipe. Most permaculturists in my area warn against using soaps that add alkalinity or salt to the environment.
A quick google search brings up the European Union putting disodium tetraborate on its list of substances "of very high concern". (It is not completely banned) The testing agency fed it to test animals. I'm not yet convinced it's less safe than the slew of chemicals in laundry soap. Borax, a mined mineral, has been in constant use for 5,000 years for hundreds of applications.
I couldn't find the link to the Aussie family who uses homemade laundry soap (could be New Zealand) but they built a metal house on concrete slab which heats and cools itself via direct solar gain and airflow. They're christians and the pics of their garden beds irrigated with nothing but greywater were amazing. It was an older blog. If anyone finds it please post the link here. They had a lot of good info.
I'll post my observations and further research as they happen. I hope others do, too. We need people testing this out in greywater irrigation systems.
The clothes are very soft when they come out of the drier and they do not have static cling.
we did a test load of laundry with our old brand of soap and we had static cling when the clothes were dried in the drier.
Being that i am automatically distrustful of big business....it seems to me that modern laundry soap has built in chemicals that make clothes rough to the touch and create static cling.
Then the same companies market fabric softners and drier sheets to solve these issues.
this makes me Sick! but it makes total sense and why wouldn't a large corporation create the need for more products to sell to the masses to increase profitability.
This not exactly planned obsolescence.....but it is similar on concept. I am sure this type of marketing has a name??
I have been using this for almost 14 yrs. The soap will also cut the burnt food and other crud in your pot & pans, too ! Just add a half cup to the pot , fill with hot water & soak overnight.
For 'normal' washing, ie getting rid of dust and sweat from normal clothes, I use a 'wash ball'.
For dirtier stuff I use home-made soap.
For really gunky stuff like nappies I use the sodium carbonate.
My other half likes borax - I've never been able to stand the smell of it and have never felt the need to use anything stronger than the washing soda/sodium carbonate.
Using natural soap, such as homemade soap, gives an adequate laundry powder in soft water with a neutral pH. In hard water you will begin to notice a greying of your whites. Hard water plus natural soap creates a bond between the water minerals and the soap and forms soap scum. Detergents don't do this but also don't break down in the environment in the same benign way. To see if your version of the laundry soap is forming soap scum in your water -- look at the water level line in your washing machine. If you notice a grey-brown scum forming in our laundry tub at the water level, you have hard water and a soap scum forming on both your wash tub and your clothes.
Reducing the amount of soap that you use helps. I use only 1 tbsp. per wash load of a mix of 1- 4oz bar of soap, 2 cups of washing soda, 2 cups of borax and a gallon of water. Its the soap that greys the whites not the other ingredients.
Adding a cup of vinegar or diluted citric acid (cheaper) to the rinse cycle of just your white load will prevent the soap scum from forming on your whites, and add some fabric softening to your the load. I just add vinegar to the cup that is intended for fabric softener, at the beginning of the load.
Borax is fine for the garden, especially for fruit trees. They require a small amount of boron in the soil for fruiting. Washing soda in your grey water, will change the soil pH so don't use it on blueberries or other acid loving plants.
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