"run the site my way or else I will leave"

here's a thread about the f-word https://permies.com/t/37252/Word

I have not encountered any significant  language issues on this site.  If I do find something offensive, I don't have to continue to read it.  Nor do I need to instruct others regarding what they should or should not read.  This sort of reminds me of an employee I once had.  She had watched a certain tv program beginning to end  recording every word she found offensive.  Of course she sputtered when I asked her the obvious question.

When people say "I'm leaving because [X, Y, Z]" I love the response "This is not an airport. No announcement needs to be made for your departure."

We get a good number of people like this in my 3D printing group. The trouble gets worse when a couple of very dedicated people start making fake accounts and harassing people. The internet can be both an enlightening and needlessly cruel place.

Thank you to the staff for the work you do.  As a relatively junior poster/ learner, it seems to me that Permies is about sharing experiences, using research findings and improving the earth (even if it only my little patch).  I have been called out on a purple moosage and post but this is because I totally failed to understand the rules as they are applied.  If one is called out, it is adult to say "fair call" and get on enjoying the learning experience, which is why, after all, I chose to become a member.

If I disagree with a post, I need to have evidence that it is wrong and post that evidence or otherwise keep my opinion off the page and especially not be disrespectful or rude.  My experiences do add to the discussion but my opinion is not evidence, it is my opinion.  As a senior health worker, I never second guessed what my emergency response workers did at the scene because I was not there.  To improve their skills and experiential learning, the questions were always only 2: what did you do? and what do you think you could have done better.  It was never my role to denigrate their work or opinions but to enhance their capacity and capability to improve.  To my mind, having read the above, the staff are right in removing any post that is not deemed to contribute to the capacity or capability of another member(s) to grow or move a project forward.  Again, thank you for keeping Permies.com as a great site for learning and growth.

Awwww, I missed it!!

Gary Numan wrote:Awwww, I missed it!!

Sorry about that.

Not really the way I wanted to start my Wednesday morning.

A great big huge thank you to the volunteers who handled the situation and how epically awesome you are.

You can see how wonderful they are by the fact that you missed the drama and that this site looks so fantastic from the outside.  And I can see how amazing they are by watching how quickly they come together to work out problems.  

This community is very attractive because of the way it's managed.  The problem is, changing the way it's managed would change the very thing that makes so many people want to spend time here.  

And a thank you to the contributors on permies that make this place worth defending.  

Well that was interesting.  Problem solved.

At the top of the PM system it says:

We don't have 'private' messages. The closest we have is 'purple mooseages'. This is where you send a message to one other individual, and it is made available for all of the staff to see too, so they can forward it to their co-workers for a good laugh. But since you tend to write the world's most boring messages, the staff ends up rarely looking at yours. If you want something that might actually be private, you can try email

The Purple Moosages also have a report button.  

All the other drama aside, saying "if you don't do what I command, I will leave" will make it very easy for staff to know which button to press.


And a reminder that you all have access to the report button if you see a post that you are uncomfortable with (or a purple moosage).  You can also start a new thread in this forum, the Tinkering With This Site Forum and all the top moderators will be sent an email.   These are by far the best way to get the attention of the staff, not sending PMs.

Trace Oswald wrote:

Judith Browning wrote:

On the other hand, my nosy self is quite curious about what went down last night

Me too

At least tell me what the subject was that was being flamed.

The topic from last night would have been a brilliant topic for permaculture.  The big problem was, it started as problem-focused and by the third post, devolved into insults.  It's a great example of moderating for niceness - looking at how the words were written instead of the content.  The thread identified a problem that exists in our culture. Instead of talking about all the things that are wrong, we could be talking about how to make it better.

https://permies.com/t/134514/run-site-leave#1053713

I think if a person calls the staff a bunch of assholes, they shouldn't be surprised if their account is locked.  And if they email me all confused about why their account is locked, i think they further should not be surprised if I don't reply.

I had no clue what happened last night, but I did get an email this morning which I passed on to the staff - only to have the staff tell me to read up on the stuff from last night.  

I think the staff made a damn good call.

oh, excitement.  I missed it.

But looking back at the notes, yeh.  If someone came to my house that angry and started tossing that kind of abuse at me, I wouldn't want them hanging around.

Looks like the system works.  Well done guys.  

https://permies.com/wiki/34193/
is a very good place to learn about how permies works.

Especially this: https://permies.com/t/31128/tnk/category-Cider-Press

If it's a topic that gets one hot and bothered, it might be one of those topics that fits better in the cider press.  

Saw the best swan song ever on another forum today.

I AM HERE TO SAY GOODBYE TO THE GROUP, WHICH I LOVE SO MUCH! 😢 MY HUSBAND SAYS I AM IN THIS GROUP EVERY 20 SECONDS AND HE CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE! WE ARGUED AND HE TOLD ME TO CHOOSE BETWEEN HIM OR THE GROUP. SO I AM GOING TO BE OFFLINE FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHILE I PACK HIS BAGS, AND CALL HIM AN UBER! I'LL BE RIGHT BACK......

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