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            Hello everyone , I thought that maybe someone else besides me wanted or needed a great water filter. I purchased a 55 gal black plastic drum that has a white liner ( Hot Peppers came in this drum ) Wash  out, wash out, wash out,  as a good measure I took a new unused mop, and cloroxed the dickens out of the drum .
             I have not as yet assembled the unit, I am searching for activater charcoal . All that I can find around here is at Walmart ( fish tank activated charcoal ) That will work fine if I have to use it . I purchased a 175 watt mercury vaper light bulb at tractor supply to use as my uv source .
              The bottom of the drum , must be fitted with a spout conected to a pipe on the inside that has small holes drilled in it,to allow water to exit the drum into the uv stage of the unit. This unit is to pour 5 gals of water in at a time . The filter will set high on cement blocks , allowing a fall where a 35 gal drum with a spout will have the 175 watt uv installed in the top of the drum. 5 gals of water will pour into the 35 gal drum from the 55 gal filter unit . the uv light will be turned on for 5 minuits, the water will be purified, ready to drink.
             
 Now for filling the drum..12 inches will be filled with cleaned medium sized gravel ,on the gravel will be plastic screen layers. the next layer will be clean sifted sand ( no cat poop ), 12 inches of sand, over this will be more layers of screen. the next layer is activated charcoal,3 to 12 inches, more layers of screen,a 6 inch layer of sand over the charcoal, more layers of scree
             
The top layer needs to be in a pouch or bag, large enough to hold 5 gal of sand. this bag needs to be made out poly bags or screen. it must lay flat and cover the surface area completly . This bag will be remover , cleaned or replace as often as needed ( dirty)  .
              
I will be running my water through a solar distiller ,and then pouring 5 gals. into the sand/charcoal filter unit. However the more layers of sand/charcoal the better the filter. I hope that you can understand my plan,I'm not good at explaning things . Bye greggd
 
                    
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http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/


It helps readability of long posts if paragraphs are used; even single sentences with a line breal between can make it easier to follow directions/instructions/descriptions.

 
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There is a cheap, easy to find filter that will filter out fine particulates: paper coffee filters.
They are not a "do-it-all" filter, but the more particulates you filter out before you get to your main filter, the less often you will have to clean it.
 
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Can these Berky's filter rain water for potable use?
 
                        
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oracle wrote:
Can these Berky's filter rain water for potable use?


Yes.  There's a video somewhere (maybe on their site) that shows how they took water, added food color to it, and ran it through the filter.  The result was clear of any dye.  So they should work fine on rain water.
 
                              
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Thanks for the replies ! I would like to tell you why I want a great water filter . I have had 2 kidney stones destroyed by liprotripsy...EXPENSIVE ! I have moned and groaned many stones out on my own .  I started drinking distilled water ,carbonated water and ginger ail ( at a resturant I will have tea/coke ) At home I drink decaf.tea and coffee .
          I had my yearly kidney stone exray ... NO KIDNEY STONES ! The Dr. was puzzeled( he missed some  money ) I told him of my water change , He said that was not it . I did not change my diet only my water intake . I live in the country and have well water. I do not use any well water for cooking or drinking . I also fill ice trays with distilled water ....works for me !
          I want the best filtering system that I can get,period .Store bought does not mean BEST , but it could be ? Distilled water gets expensive , therefore the rush to create  a mega filtering devise .I may mate together differant systems to achieve a clean water system . Thanks for all feed back,Have a blessed day ,greggd
 
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oracle wrote:
Can these Berky's filter rain water for potable use?


it depends on what you are trying to filter out of the water.
 
Abe Connally
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greggd wrote:
Thanks for the replies ! I would like to tell you why I want a great water filter . I have had 2 kidney stones destroyed by liprotripsy...EXPENSIVE ! I have moned and groaned many stones out on my own .  I started drinking distilled water ,carbonated water and ginger ail ( at a resturant I will have tea/coke ) At home I drink decaf.tea and coffee .
          I had my yearly kidney stone exray ... NO KIDNEY STONES ! The Dr. was puzzeled( he missed some  money ) I told him of my water change , He said that was not it . I did not change my diet only my water intake . I live in the country and have well water. I do not use any well water for cooking or drinking . I also fill ice trays with distilled water ....works for me !
          I want the best filtering system that I can get,period .Store bought does not mean BEST , but it could be ? Distilled water gets expensive , therefore the rush to create  a mega filtering devise .I may mate together differant systems to achieve a clean water system . Thanks for all feed back,Have a blessed day ,greggd

ingest more magnesium.  kidney stones are a likely indicator of a magnesium deficiency.
 
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Your filter, as you describe it, and as I understand it, will not remove minerals from the water.

So, if distilled water (very soft-no minerals) is what stopped your kidney stones, your new filter will not fulfill that need for demineralized water.

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I use a slow sand filter in a 55-gallon plastic barrel for potable water.  works really well and cost maybe $10 to build.  I like the idea of a bag to hold the top layer of sand for ease of cleaning.  I might try that.
 
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If you want to remove the minerals, you will need a reverse osmosis or an evaporative collector.
A filter won't likely take out calcium or other metals in the water.
 
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tel jetson wrote:
I use a slow sand filter in a 55-gallon plastic barrel for potable water.  works really well and cost maybe $10 to build.  I like the idea of a bag to hold the top layer of sand for ease of cleaning.  I might try that.


Where did you get your plans/specs for the slow sand filter?  any recommendations on building one?
 
Fred Winsol
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tel jetson wrote:
I use a slow sand filter in a 55-gallon plastic barrel for potable water.  works really well and cost maybe $10 to build.  I like the idea of a bag to hold the top layer of sand for ease of cleaning.  I might try that.


how did you build your slow sand filter? what's your daily yield?
 
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some good information at biosandfilter.org.

I plumbed a pipe inside the barrel to collect the water at the bottom and route it up and through the side of the barrel about two inches below the top.  from there it goes to a 500-gallon storage tank and gravity feeds to the rest of the property.

yield?  I haven't actually measured it.  I have my well pump set on a timer to run for three minutes every eight hours.  that fills up two 55-gallon barrels uphill from the filter which then feed into the filter.  I think the most I've run through it is about 250 gallons in a day, and I'm guessing I'm at a little under 100 gallons/day right now.  my throughput is sometimes higher than recommended by most instructions I've read for the surface area I've got, but I'm comfortable with that because the main problem we've got is iron and manganese in the water and the filter sorts those out pretty quickly.  if we had heavy metals, or microbiological issues, or nitrates, or really anything other than the iron and manganese, I would probably slow it down a bit and add more filters to make up the difference.  I do have another one built that I plan to hook up one of these days.  other things ahead of that on a long and growing list, though.
 
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If you want a good water softner there are TAC ( template assisted Chrystalization) I think. But they cost alot. Whol house ones are around $1,000.00. Better than salt though. And there is the question of those Chrystal's . They say there not absorbed, but they also say this water will clean out deposits on your pipes.. So what is it absorbing inside of you if you drink it?
Is there a DIY way to demineralize?
 
Peter DeJay
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I like the idea of a home made filter, and I think the multi stage sand filter with activated charcoal sounds good. However, if you are distilling the water first, there is no need for a filter system as nothing will be remaining except pure, demineralized water. Also, from my understanding, the UV light only has a small depth of penetration, hence most UV setups are laid longwise against a clear tube of water. I don't think it will fully remove the bacteria from a large volume of water.

You've got me wondering, is hard well water a cause of kidney stones?

Suzanne- I've heard Pelican makes a good salt free water softener. There is also one that you wrap a length of copper pipe with a coil. The way they work is they change the molecular structure of the hardness, without actualyl removing it. They sort of "soften" the shape of the molecule so it doesn't adhere to a surface and instead passes through.
 
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If your distillation unit is working properly there is very little left to filter of any kind. All sediment and nearly all minerals will be removed by distillation. The only thing that should make it out of the distillation process are the more volatile organic compounds. And at least some of them can be adsorbed by charcoal. The rest of the filter is problematic as the sand part of your filter is probably actually adding minerals back to the water. Now if you can set up for fractional distillation you could wipe even nearly all the organics out of the mix. But that is a far more complex operation requiring precise control of temperature and pressure at each stage.
 
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I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here.
Rain water is already naturally distilled water if that's what you want, no need for a water softener, it has no minerals dissolved at all.

A Berkey filter will remove anything large enough to pose a biological health hazard and very economically at that.

 
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I see the need to filter rain water- all the air pollution the rain picks up on the way. True it will have a lesser mineral content, but there's still plenty of fun things along for the ride.

I've been really interested lately in the possibility of effective water filtration without industrially activated charcoal. Recently stumbled across this guy and the work he's doing with my favorite tedx presenter

Their research here on water filtration systems made with at-home biochar shows that they can approach if not rival activate carbon systems.
 
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