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Hello permies, I'm interested in vacuum packing dry goods in mason jars (not water bath canning, just dry storage).  I've heard you can use a FoodSaver and get an attachment that will suck the air out of a mason jar and let a standard lid maintain the seal:
Food Saver
Jar Sealer

I've also seen hand pump vacuum sealers but they come with lids.  The lids fit many sizes of jars   But they don't use standard mason jar lids so you need to buy tons of them
VacuWare Lids

Does anyone know of a cheap way (ideally a hand pump) to seal standard lids onto mason jars? 
 
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The only way I can think of to use standard lids would be to heat your jars before adding the ingredients or heat the jar and the ingredients, then tighten the lids.  As the jars cool it seems to me that a vacuum would form.

Here is an article of interest but they use Food Saver Lids.

https://www.tenthacrefarm.com/2014/06/non-electric-mason-jar-vacuum-sealer/

It will be interesting to find what others are doing, other than adding the Oxygen Absorbers.

http://americanpreppersnetwork.com/2012/10/dry-canning-the-easy-way.html
 
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You can buy handheld vacuum pumps at auto part stores, harbor freight, amazon, etc.  They use them for bleeding brakes and so forth. 

https://www.amazon.com/HFS-Brake-Bleeder-Vacuum-Tuner/dp/B00NP60URE

Get one of those and use the Jar sealer with it.
 
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I actually use this technique with wine so a bottle lasts over a week but then I have a special top to go on the bottles don't think they are available for bigger jars .
 
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Peter VanDerWal wrote:You can buy handheld vacuum pumps at auto part stores, harbor freight, amazon, etc.  They use them for bleeding brakes and so forth. 

https://www.amazon.com/HFS-Brake-Bleeder-Vacuum-Tuner/dp/B00NP60URE

Get one of those and use the Jar sealer with it.


That sounds perfect!  Thanks Peter!  I can't seem to find out what diameter the tubing on the jar sealer kit is but I could always thread on a new nipple on the bleeder pump to match.  Yay!

I wonder how much vacuum the FoodSaver creates.  I'd hate to overdo it with the bleeder and implode a jar
 
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Mike Jay wrote:
I wonder how much vacuum the FoodSaver creates.  I'd hate to overdo it with the bleeder and implode a jar



I don't think it's possible to implode a jar.  Even a perfect vacuum will be less than 30 inches of mercury (14.7 psi pressure) on the jar, you're not going to get down to a perfect vacuum.
There are a couple articles on the web that indicate the foodsaver pulls around 20-22 inches of mercury.

If you have a good hand held pump and work at it, you can pull ~25 inches of mercury.  I'd say 15-20 inches will be fine.
 
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Thanks Peter!!!
 
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Sorry, I meant to include the Amazon link from the article.  Peter's link is cheaper!
 
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Hi Anne, sorry, your links were just as awesome as Peter's.  The video on the Tenth Acre Farm blog show him using the FoodSaver attachment but it still seals with a standard lid.  So it's exactly the same as Peter's suggestion.  I pulled out his youtube video and put it below.  The oxygen absorber seems a bit less sustainable since I'd have to keep buying them.  But it's great to know that they are just normal hand warmers.  I'll definitely keep that in mind.

 
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You might want to investigate building a "Vaccu-Canner" - using a pressure canner vessel connected to a vacuum pump and you can do up to 7 quarts at once - you may have to spend some money to build it but they work great...
 
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Thanks Jake, good idea!  I ended up getting a cheap food saver type vacuum packer and the standard accessories to do jars.  I'll probably pick up a hand brake bleeder pump some time but the reviews on Amazon were underwhelming when I looked.
 
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Mike Jay wrote:Thanks Jake, good idea!  I ended up getting a cheap food saver type vacuum packer and the standard accessories to do jars.  I'll probably pick up a hand brake bleeder pump some time but the reviews on Amazon were underwhelming when I looked.



I am a member of jack spirko's MSB (Membership Support Brigade) for his Survival  Podcast.  I was an instructor at one of his workshops and did a workshop on building pressure canner style drycanners... don't know if you happen to be a member also, but if so, the video of my session is in his video section.  We discovered using a cheap vaccum pump for automobiles for the HVAC system was the cheapest way to get the hoses, connectors and vacuum pressure dial and with one fitting (If I recall) you can convert and be up and running in no time...

cheers,

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That's awesome Jake.  When you say "a cheap vacuum pump for automobiles", I'm assuming you mean a brake bleeder pump?  Do you happen to know what level of vacuum you need?  And how many pumps it takes to get there with a hand pump on a pressure canner?  I'm imagining hundreds
 
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Sorry, I didn't mean pumping by hand... using a low cost pump from Harbor Frieght (catch it on sale for $89 and use 20% discount coupon)  Use existing canner or buy a used one.  The pressure gauge kit like this one... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01617TZ8S/ref=asc_df_B01617TZ8S5486323/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=395033&creativeASIN=B01617TZ8S&linkCode=df0&hvadid=241928896524&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13940755486661424050&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9013143&hvtargid=pla-501057928277
 
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or heck, even this cheap kit may work... first time I've seen this particular kit...

https://www.ebay.com/i/142563103959?chn=ps&var=441548456029
 
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