John C Daley wrote:Tyler,I don't agree, at the end of the day, local authorities need cash to pay wages and for materials for the good work the community expects them to carry out.
Somebody has to pay cash, bartering to replace a water main or fix a pothole will not work.
Doing work at a local church working bee, does not replace the needs of the local authority for cash payment and can not be accepted as suitable effort
to contribute to the costs of running the municipality.
If may count for brownie points in some peoples eyes and I guess thats ok forthem, but not myself.
John C Daley wrote:
I was thinking people were choosing to cut back simply for lifestyle reasons and expect welfare.
Gurkan Yeniceri wrote:
If you are truly nomad, own nothing, roam around and eat what you find, you can then be out of this system
Travis Johnson wrote:
A case in point is where I live. Here 60% of the population works for the school, and so when a school budget is developed it immediately passes because so many people's paychecks are at stake. The problem is 75%, of that school budget is based on local property taxes, and with a school budget that does not get any form of reality check, property taxes have skyrocketed.
It is now to the point where local farmers cannot compete on their limited scale of farming, and so only the bigger farms with the economy of scale can pay the property taxes. The small farmers are gone, the mid-level farmers are struggling, and we are talking farms that have been here in existence for some 100 plus years. My own farm is 280 years old and it is all I can do to pay the property taxes. The exact number is $10,200 a year in US currency, about $200 a week just to keep what I got. In livestock terms, that is (2) lambs per week going to slaughter without paying other taxes, feeding my family, or paying for other expenses.
Tyler Ludens wrote:
You might still be using public roads to move around...
John C Daley wrote:I notice very few people collect rainfall in North America to use and rely on wells.
J Anders wrote:Holy cow!!! Where are you at again and how many acres? I might have seen but I've forgotten.
John C Daley wrote:I have to disagree about water and black water systems, I believe there is an good case to prove large scale systems are practical and cost effective.
In Australia in the 109702 we had massive pollution of waterways from septic tanks that were not working or there were simply too many in a given area. I notice very few people collect rainfall in North America to use and rely on wells. From what I can see, in closer communities reticulated water is practical, no dust borne pollution, usually supply at all times and cost effective compared with tanks etc.
Travis Johnson wrote:it is staggering to think that 104 lambs have to be sent to slaughter every year JUST to pay for property taxes alone.
Stacy Witscher wrote: Property tax doesn't require an active transaction. I didn't do anything, my property is taxed just for still being mine, that's weird.
Travis Johnson wrote:We should collect rainfall probably, but unlike Australia, we have a deep aquifer and thus do not have too. This sounds strange, but because of global warming, in the State of Maine we are actually increasing our already high rainfall per year by an additional 5 inches of rain. Add in snowmelt from deeper winter snows (last year was the 4th highest snowfall on record) and we are in really great shape in terms of aquifer. Now I know this is not the case in Australia, but that is the problem when we start being judgmental of how others do things.
John C Daley wrote:BUT, compared with wells I think its better, IF the ground does not freeze.
But it begs the question, how do the wells wok if the ground is frozen?
Does the lower level of the water means its not cold enough to freeze and get to the house somehow?
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:From a purely pragmatic standpoint, those people that choose to not work for money, are casting a vote. They are voting for less money to be spent on roads, schools, social projects, etc. In a true and honest democracy, their vote is as valid as the vote of those people who vote to spend their lives paying for roads, schools, libraries, welfare, etc. My personal preference favors gravel roads over paved. My hometown doesn't even have stop/yield signs on intersections. That pleases me.
Tyler,I don't agree, at the end of the day, local authorities need cash to pay wages and for materials for the good work the community expects them to carry out.