• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nicole Alderman
  • Anne Miller
  • r ranson
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
  • James Freyr
stewards:
  • Burra Maluca
  • Mike Haasl
  • Joylynn Hardesty
master gardeners:
  • Steve Thorn
  • Greg Martin
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jay Angler
  • Tereza Okava

I dreamed of a cool plant!

 
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 10
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I dreamed of a neat plant last night...
Tasted like a cross between chard and romaine, seeds looked like chard, but the leaves grew 6 foot tall! Edit: The seed heads were about 15 feet tall!!
It was being sold to restaurants pre-chopped in bags.
I got seeds because I wanted to try it as a non-thorny hedge the deer couldn't eat totally down. Feed them too much to eat it all :)
If anyone has these seeds, please tell me!! :D
 
steward
Posts: 6301
Location: Missoula, MT
1640
hugelkultur purity forest garden books food preservation
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Pearl Sutton wrote:I dreamed of a neat plant last night...
Tasted like a cross between chard and romaine, seeds looked like chard, but the leaves grew 6 foot tall!
It was being sold to restaurants pre-chopped in bags.
I got seeds because I wanted to try it as a non-thorny hedge the deer couldn't eat totally down. Feed them too much to eat it all :)
If anyone has these seeds, please tell me!! :D



Oh, I would LOVE that plant!! Chard is one of my favorite greens for so many, many reasons. It's on the good list for helping with liver/gallstone issues, too. I'd eat chard every day if I could (and some times I do!).
 
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
And after you send seeds to Pearl and Jocelyn, send a few my way!

I keep having weird dreams lately....I like yours better Pearl.
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Greg Martin wrote:

I keep having weird dreams lately....I like yours better Pearl.


My dreams are WAY more fun than my real life, these days. I always have neat dreams!!
Or REALLY vivid nightmares, just a matter of which emotional reaction I have to the vivid creative and bizarre dreams. I have had people say they wish they could film my dreams.
 
pollinator
Posts: 464
Location: San Diego, California
86
forest garden trees rabbit chicken food preservation building woodworking greening the desert
  • Likes 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Let's get Lofthouse on it right away - that guy can breed something new like this in no time!
 
gardener & hugelmaster
Posts: 1738
Location: mountains of Tennessee
651
cattle hugelkultur cat dog trees hunting chicken bee homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I'd like to see eat the deer after their feasting.

Noticed some tiny bell peppers in a seed catalog. Did not see any six foot tall lettuce. Wow. That would be excellent!
 
pollinator
Posts: 316
Location: Virginia
106
books chicken cooking
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I have eaten your plant Pearl!😄

We intentionally let romaine bolt bcause my husband loves it cooked and we mix it with chard. (Saute in bacon grease, salt and pepper).

The romaine plant gets about 5 feet tall.  I only wish the leaves did too!
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Mike:
I have grown the itty bell peppers, they are very cute but the walls are super thin, not a lot of flavor to them. I don't recommended them.
And my neighbors have a deer blind in the back, they will be happy when I'm feeding the deer lots of healthy food :)

Tina:
The seed heads on it were at 15 feet or so tall :)
I have had chard grow 2 foot tall leaves and 6 foot seed stalks, but have never seen what I dreamed of :)

 
gardener
Posts: 6644
Location: Arkansas - Zone 7B/8A stoney, sandy loam soil pH 6.5
1293
hugelkultur dog forest garden duck fish fungi hunting books chicken writing homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I know of a plant that grows huge like that but it is very, very poisonous.  Giant Hogweed.

We might be able to breed the poisons out of it though, this might be an interesting experiment. It might even lead to a non poisonous variety
Is it ok to call it "the Pearl Experiment" ?

 I'll see if I can use one of the old greenhouses at the school so it is away from the student body and then I'll put in a call to a friend that can collect one as a baby.
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Bryant RedHawk wrote:I know of a plant that grows huge like that but it is very, very poisonous.  Giant Hogweed.

We might be able to breed the poisons out of it though, this might be an interesting experiment. It might even lead to a non poisonous variety
Is it ok to call it "the Pearl Experiment" ?

 I'll see if I can use one of the old greenhouses at the school so it is away from the student body and then I'll put in a call to a friend that can collect one as a baby.



I can think of a LOT more useful things to breed with :) Maybe imprison romaine, chard and perennial kale and see what grows in a few seasons.

I had looked up giant hogweed before, when trying to identify a weed on my place, doesn't look friendly. Never really did decide what I had weed-wise, was either poison hemlock, or some rowdy wild carrot with some disease. I ended up gloving etc like it was hemlock and removing it by the roots.
 
Greg Martin
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Has anyone tasted 'Empress Wu' yet?  I very much enjoy eating the new leaves of hostas cooked, but I haven't added this one to my gardens yet.


Still not as big as Pearl's dream though (Pearl dreams BIG!)
 
Greg Martin
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Pearl Sutton wrote:

Bryant RedHawk wrote:I know of a plant that grows huge like that but it is very, very poisonous.  Giant Hogweed.

We might be able to breed the poisons out of it though, this might be an interesting experiment. It might even lead to a non poisonous variety
Is it ok to call it "the Pearl Experiment" ?

 I'll see if I can use one of the old greenhouses at the school so it is away from the student body and then I'll put in a call to a friend that can collect one as a baby.



I can think of a LOT more useful things to breed with :)




RedHawk….you are an adventuresome fellow!  You got me to thinking that I need to plant (and eat) an Udo (Aralia cordata).  Check out this one....that guy is over 6' tall.  We need a picture of giant Paul and the giant Udo!!!



Still, doesn't look like Pearl's plant very much....the search continues.
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hostas are edible?! New one on me. I've just never cared for how they look, never researched them. There are SO many plants I adore and want, I never looked at hostas.

And a quick look up, thanks, you just added Udo (Aralia cordata) to my want list! That puts me at 14,382 plants I want now!! :D
I'm glad I don't keep a countable list, I'd make myself cry.
 
Greg Martin
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Pearl, how about tiny hostas as a shady spot edible groundcover?  (see pic at bottom)
Stephen Barstow has a great article on eating hostas in Permaculture Magazine

Speaking of Stephen, here's a picture of him getting eaten by his Udo plant (never try this with Giant Hogweed!)

From Stephen's Edimental site.

If you haven't gotten a copy of his book Around the World in 80 Plants you should treat yourself to it!
Ground-Cover-Hosta-Blue-Mouse-Ears.jpg
[Thumbnail for Ground-Cover-Hosta-Blue-Mouse-Ears.jpg]
 
Greg Martin
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Pearl Sutton wrote:And a quick look up, thanks, you just added Udo (Aralia cordata) to my want list! That puts me at 14,382 plants I want now!! :D
I'm glad I don't keep a countable list, I'd make myself cry.



I am an evil plant pusher disguised as a lovable Permies Staff member....don't tell anyone!
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Greg Martin wrote:
I am an evil plant pusher disguised as a lovable Permies Staff member



That needs to be on your resume... :D
And a book pusher, that's my other weakness!!
Bad Greg!!! :D
 
Mike Barkley
gardener & hugelmaster
Posts: 1738
Location: mountains of Tennessee
651
cattle hugelkultur cat dog trees hunting chicken bee homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Ooooh. Forgot that hostas are edible. Have the perfect place for them. First one is free right?
 
Greg Martin
master gardener
Posts: 1687
Location: Maine, zone 5
670
forest garden trees food preservation solar wood heat homestead
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator

Mike Barkley wrote:Ooooh. Forgot that hostas are edible. Have the perfect place for them. First one is free right?


Mike, you know how this works!  (but the S+H is where I get you...remember, I said evil)
 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
First one free is always a hazard!
Someone told me the first chicken is free...

 
master steward
Posts: 3467
Location: USDA Zone 8a
972
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
This almost looks like a 6 ft tall chard:





They cheat:




Amazon Link to Garden Tower

 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Anne: That's some rowdy chard, indeed!!

 
Anne Miller
master steward
Posts: 3467
Location: USDA Zone 8a
972
dog hunting food preservation cooking bee greening the desert
  • Likes 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Pearl, maybe you dreamed about Giant Kale?

Or from that thread:

 'Richmond’s Pride’, a purple 'tree collard' that grows to 6-10' and 3' wide.




Amazon Link to Tree Collard

From the ad:

Tree Collards are much like regular collard greens except that they are 5-6 feet tall with purple-tinted leaves growing up a single tall stalk.






 
Pearl Sutton
steward & bricolagier
Posts: 5213
Location: SW Missouri
2210
goat cat fungi books chicken earthworks food preservation cooking building homestead ungarbage
  • Likes 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Oh Anne, you just threw me down another rabbithole... Thank you!! Wow, cool, I'll look all of that concept up. Oh my. How have I missed this?

Edit: Oh dear, and now I'm on a site called Rare and Exotic seeds... This won't end well. I am on a dumpster diver budget, not a rare seed one...
 
Beauty is in the eye of the tiny ad.
Devious Experiments for a Truly Passive Greenhouse!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/greenhouse-1
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic