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Storing tomatoes in ash for months

 
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I've just run into a few claims that you can take tomatoes that would go bad within a few days, and store them for months packed in wood ash. I saw it in an article about a farmer somewhere who had revolutionized his life by being able to extend the sales of his crop, but I can't find that now. I did find another page, though, that discusses it:

https://echocommunity.site-ym.com/resource/resmgr/a_to_z/azch10st.htm#Wood


Ken Hargesheimer sent us a copy of the "From Garden to Kitchen" newsletter published by UNICEF. It provides a way for Pacific Island populations to share gardening and nutrition information suited to the local region. If you are in the Pacific Islands, you are eligible to receive this newsletter (no fee). Write South Pacific Commission Community Education Training Centre, c/o UNDP, Private Mail Bag, Suva, FIJI; phone 300439; fax (679) 301667. The following is from issue #10.

Farmers know all too well the problem of large quantities of tomatoes (and low prices) during season, followed by short supply and higher prices. The Bureau of Education in the Philippines says you can extend the season in which tomatoes are available. Fresh tomatoes can be preserved in wood ash for up to three months.

Preserve only newly picked tomatoes which are ripe but not soft and overripe. They must be free of bruises and blemishes. Select a wooden or cardboard box or woven basket and line it with paper. Gather cool ash from the cooking fire and sift to remove sharp particles. Spread the ash evenly on the bottom, 1.5 inches (4 cm) thick. Arrange the tomatoes upside down (stem end facing down) in one layer and pour another thin layer of ash on top. Continue layering tomatoes and ash until the container is full. Cover and seal the container and keep in a cool dry place. [The article does not say how to cover and seal. My best guess is to cover with ash then a loose-fitting cover to keep the ash from being disturbed.] The skin will wrinkle but the pulp inside will remain juicy.

 
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I ate tomatoes yesterday that were picked in September. They have been stored in a closet in the house without any special treatment or care. Sure, they were somewhat dehydrated, but super tasty. Variety selection is important for storing tomatoes like this.  I haven't tried wood ashes. If I were serious about storing tomatoes for winter use, either in ashes, or on the counter-top, I could make the process much more effective by doing a couple of year's worth of selection for long-keeping traits.



 
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If I were serious about storing tomatoes for winter use, either in ashes, or on the counter-top, I could make the process much more effective by doing a couple of year's worth of selection for long-keeping traits.



That is certainly the best approach. Why fiddle around with other stuff if you can convince the plant to make the problem just go away? The ash treatment seems like potentially a good shortcut, though. And if you used it with a storage variety, I wonder just how long you could get a tomato to last...

I found the other article: http://wire.farmradio.fm/en/farmer-stories/2016/11/burundi-farmer-finds-new-technique-for-preserving-tomatoes-15454

Then one day, he noticed that the tomatoes he had kept next to his banana trees were not rotten. Then he noticed the ash at the foot of the banana trees.

He decided to try keeping his tomatoes in ash and found that this was more effective than any of the other techniques he had tried.

He uses ash from a chimney, and sifts it three or four times to remove large residues, debris, and other foreign materials. Then, he dumps the ash into a paper carton and places the tomatoes in the carton. With this technique, Mr. Nduwimana manages to safely store his tomatoes for many months.

He explains: “I keep my tomatoes in the ash for a period of five to six months, so I can sell them in December, January, or February when the price has risen—since tomatoes are rare and become expensive during this period.“



I'm really curious to try this myself - I'll probably buy a few tomatoes, keep a couple out and pack a couple in ash and see how they do. And maybe some other produce, too. Depending on how the ash preserves the tomatoes, there may be other applications. I wonder if it somehow hardens the skin, or manages the humidity levels, or kills decay agents, or what...
 
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I am reminded of these
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_egg

Also stored in ash
 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:
If I were serious about storing tomatoes for winter use, either in ashes, or on the counter-top, I could make the process much more effective by doing a couple of year's worth of selection for long-keeping traits.



Luckily, this has already been done for you! In Catalonia (Barcelona and surrounding areas) they have a much loved culinary tradition of rubbing half a fresh tomato (not to mention a clove of garlic) into their bread when making a sandwich or whatever, like Americans might spread their bread with mayonnaise. This they like to do all year round, not just in September, so over decades in times of yore they developed "tomate de colgar" ("hanging tomatoes") which are smallish tomatoes that grow in strips of many tomatoes along a single stem that are perfect for hanging in an unrefrigerated closet, attic or storage area where they will keep for many months, even improving in flavor. No ash needed.

This tomato is fairly dry and perhaps surprisingly has a nice, thin skin. It is best to store tomatoes in the height of the season of perfection and the early side of maturity, before weather might make them start to crack or heaven forbid be attacked by blight, so July in a hot and sunny, tomato-friendly region is ideal. Apparently it's best to avoid the very nitrogen-rich fertilizers that are common for tomatoes but high potassium is good. Also, they should be watered very sparingly, drought stress is important to these tomatoes. On local forums the old timers even in hot, dry climates say to water only twice a month once they start to fruit.

Storage should be in a dry place with little temperature variation. Under these conditions, they can keep until the next year's harvest starts.

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Here are a couple of places in Spain that sell them:

http://www.semillasmadretierra.com/tomate-enano
http://semillasbatlle.es/es/tomate-de-colgar-domingo

Some young pups down in greenhouseville (Almería, Spain) promoting this cultivar (website in English):

http://tomatedecolgar.com/en/

This variety in the US might be similar or at least meet similar needs:

http://www.southernexposure.com/long-keeper-winter-storage-tomato-016-g-p-1227.html

Another trick from nearby farmers at high altitudes is to pick the tomatoes green and stick them in a closet or other environment with little temperature variation and layer them between newspapers, where they'll ripen pretty well and you can enjoy their bounty for a number of months. I do this and am still enjoying ripe red salad tomatoes long after my plants turned to dry sticks. But I don't think they'll last until my next harvest!

I will try the ash thing next year though, why not give it a go? If it works for hundred year eggs, there must be something to it. I also am reminded of the multiple techniques that exist around the world for preserving wood from rot when exposed to the elements, that involved charring or ash: Norwegian churches, Swedish fences, Japanese siding and maybe even some advanced stuff at Wheaton Labs!





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Jason Padvorac wrote:

Depending on how the ash preserves the tomatoes, there may be other applications. I wonder if it somehow hardens the skin, or manages the humidity levels, or kills decay agents, or what...



I suspect that potash (aka pot ashes) in the hardwood ash has a lot to do with it since "Potash is important for agriculture because it improves water retention, yield, nutrient value, taste, color, texture and disease resistance of food crops. It has wide application to fruit and vegetables, rice, wheat and other grains, sugar, corn, soybeans, palm oil and cotton, all of which benefit from the nutrient’s quality enhancing properties." [from Wikipedia, underlining mine] I am not looking forward to sifting my ashes but will give it a try!

 
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Potash and wood stove ash are 2 complete different things. Potash is a Potasium based mineral mined for use as an agricultral fertlizer.
Wood stove ash has a completely different chemical make-up.
Excellent discussion - tomatoes in winter NOT from Mexico!! wow!
 
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Interesting. Are they rubbed in woodash or stored in a woodash bin? If you rub them only you don't need all that much woodash - my woodash is gone by the tomato harvest.
Tomato de colgar - what is the variety name? Unfortunately tomato seeds are not allowed entry to Australia, would be and interesting variety!
 
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pete king wrote:Potash and wood stove ash are 2 complete different things. Potash is a Potasium based mineral mined for use as an agricultral fertlizer.
Wood stove ash has a completely different chemical make-up.
Excellent discussion - tomatoes in winter NOT from Mexico!! wow!


Should have been clearer.
Wood ash does contain a small amount of potasium (potash) near 10% depending on the type of wood burned. But generally it is not considered the same thing.
There are many sources for potasium.
Cheers,

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Hi Angelika

Re "tomate de colgar" (the Spanish term), sorry, the cultivar names for traditional varieties here are not mostly not standardized or catalogued, and seeds can be hard to even come by. After the scientific name Lycopersicon esculentum generally just comes the traditional name of the cultivar, which in the case of these fairly rare tomatoes can vary from place to place.

In case it helps, a little more info for further research: Since they are mostly from the Catalán-speaking areas (autonomous regions of Catalunya, Valencia and the Balearic Islands in Spain and the Roussillon region of France), it may help to know what they're called in Catalán: "tomàquet de penjar." (Minor problem: Catalán has at least 8 words for tomato: tomàquet, tomata, tomàtec, tomaca, tomacó, tomàtiga, tomàtic, domàtiga -- just add "de penjar" onto any of them and google it, searching without accents is fine.)

The Catalán Wikipedia article on tomatoes lists 5 separate local varieties of "tomatas de penjar" from each Girona, Castelló (2 provinces), Majorca and Menorca (2 islands) --just called for instance "tomàquet de penjar de Girona," etc.-- and a final variety that has been standardized and catalogued by the Catalunya Dept. of Agriculture, called "tomàquet de penjar plana d'Albesa."

Domingo, mallorquín, and Herrera seem to be common variety names, and look, I just found another seed catalog with 9 varieties.

If your tomatoes don't naturally grow in this convenient storage format like a proper tomate de colgar, other people do string up long strings of small tomatoes as a preservation method to keep them through the winter. (Needle and hemp string through a bit of stem left on each tomato, not obviously through the tomato itself!    Or just lop them on the string, Vesuvius-style
.) The Italians call one of these long strings a "piennolo di pomodorini" and in Spain "ristra de tomates." Tried and tested method of storing the right types of tomatoes: usually a variety that is small and not watery inside, and of course in perfect condition. Harvest when just breaking color, after a dry few days, and preferably during a waning moon. Cool storage inside away from temperature swings. This used to be the standard way of keeping tomatoes through the winter in our nearby tomato-centric Mediterranean cultures.
 
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pete king wrote:Potash and wood stove ash are 2 complete different things. Potash is a Potasium based mineral mined for use as an agricultral fertlizer.
Wood stove ash has a completely different chemical make-up.


Never said they are the same thing. All I said was that hardwood ashes contain potash and btw, 10% is a lot of potassium (as you know Potassium Sulfate, also referred to as potash, is the most powerful fertilizer delivering up to 44% of water soluble potash).
Interesting fact: the word potassium comes from pot ash, the old technique of obtaining the potassium carbonate. The Wiki says,

The term potash comes from the Middle Dutch word potaschen (pot ashes, 1477).  

 
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Interesting thread, thank you! Have found seeds available in France here:
https://laboiteagraines.com/categorie-produit/2-graines-semences-graine-semence-potageres-legumes/page/16/
 
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I am a chef, and we produce huge amounts of ash from wood fires of several kinds. I have used wood ask for an unthinkable number of things!

The one that applies most readily to this subject is tossing okra in wood ashes to keep them from going bad--the results are amazing. What used to go bad (you want them at all, you get a case minimum order in many circumstances) in about three days, with a liberal coating of ash we could hold for a month or more.

PH of wood ash is extremely high, so it makes life impossible for moat bacteria. I have also coated boiled eggs in it, which then dry to a course, shaveable consistency.

I also learned quite by accident mixing Ash with vinegar creates the same carbon dioxide gas release that is the chief reason for using baking soda. Having studied it more deeply, I found that the Pueblo Indians used culinary ash, or the white ash found on top of the pile that is most pure, with an otherwise acidic batter to create lift long before baking soda or baking powder ever existed.
 
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wow, that is so cool - about the vinegar and the ashes as a baking powder substitute!  i make a baking powder substitute here in the city (don't have much access to wood ash) which is:  
-1 part baking soda
-2 parts cream of tartar (the acid)
-1 part corn starch (to prevent caking?)

anyway, i don't EXACTLY know what cream of tartar is, but i have a feeling it's made a lab of some sort.  wood ash would be so much cooler. i also read that when you add cream of tartar to egg white it stabilizes them by helping hold in air and water, and that you should use 1/8 tsp per large egg white.  so if you're making an egg white cake frosting, maybe you should try wood ash with a little vinegar?  haha, would be a very funny color i imagine.  i have no idea if this would chemically work.  i read that cream of tartar lower pH of the albumen proteins and increases hydrogen ions, which prevent the protein molecules from binding too tightly, which keep water and air bubbles in place.  

i love the dried tomatoes. sounds like a good partner to the dried squash as written about by Buffalo Bird Woman and revisited by Carol Deppe?

thanks to those of you who shares some links/leads for seeds, not that i can grow them right now...but thanks anyway!!!  hopefully someone here will and post their progress!
 
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Michael Sohocki wrote:I am a chef, and we produce huge amounts of ash from wood fires of several kinds. I have used wood ask for an unthinkable number of things!

The one that applies most readily to this subject is tossing okra in wood ashes to keep them from going bad--the results are amazing. What used to go bad (you want them at all, you get a case minimum order in many circumstances) in about three days, with a liberal coating of ash we could hold for a month or more.

PH of wood ash is extremely high, so it makes life impossible for moat bacteria. I have also coated boiled eggs in it, which then dry to a course, shaveable consistency.

I also learned quite by accident mixing Ash with vinegar creates the same carbon dioxide gas release that is the chief reason for using baking soda. Having studied it more deeply, I found that the Pueblo Indians used culinary ash, or the white ash found on top of the pile that is most pure, with an otherwise acidic batter to create lift long before baking soda or baking powder ever existed.



thanks for sharing this....when you talked about the boiled eggs, you mean you peeled them and then coated them with ash, right?  how long does it take for them to 'dry' to a shavable consistency?  just curious, what are you shaving them onto?  haha.

also, how do you think the Pueblo Indians created an 'acidic' batter?  

thanks!!!
 
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Hi Peter.

I think "cream of tartar" is acidic. At least, there is a food additive called tartaric acid--although it is irresponsible of me to suggest without looking into it.

The Pueblo Indians relied on fermentation to lower the PH in wet grain mash. I don't remember which tribe, but human saliva (from a select human) was even used to promote a particular bacterial profile.

Adding acid to eggwhite (or any other protein that I'm aware of) denatures and lengthens protein chains. In original form, they are all crumpled up like tightly crunched tinfoil. Acid does something to their mollecular binding properties, causing them to dissociate, more like a box of loose rubber bands. A little of this is helpful in whipping eggwhites because longer protein chains can hold a greater volume of air. Like me.

Now back to basics....

Wood ash is highly basic--like your baking soda. In the Foxfire Books (a fabulous record of a pre-electric society getting along in the mountains), there is described a wooden trough, the bottom lined with straw and then
stones, followed by wood ash from the fire. They would pour water in the top incrementally, which would percolate to the bottom to extract a mild (solution) lye. By either drying or heating they would concentrate this down until an egg would float in it, and this was the basis for soap and many other cleaning products.

It might interest you that this same lye is how the Jews of Eastern Europe got that shiny, crispy glaze on the outside of pretzels.

So what does ash do to an egg? I know less about this than I do about acids--but alkaline definitely does weird stuff to protein. It certainly darkens and denatures, so the texture of muscle tissue becomes sort of plastid and bouncy subjected to alkaline solutions. It also becomes slimy. Have you ever gotten bleach on your fingers, and you feel that slippery thing going on? There is a reaction happening between the strong base and the protein that your fingers are made of (and if you leave it there, it can mess you up pretty bad). You can reverse this process with a few drops of vinegar.

Rolling a boiled egg in pure wood ash probably has less to do with chemical reactions (neither the egg nor the ash are in an aqueous solution that would permit the chemical to travel far) than the simple removal of water. (3 days is shaveable, but it will hang out indefinitely)

Pathogens "require a water activity level of 1.0"  to reproduce effectively, so a peeled boiled egg rolled in ash is pretty near impenetrable. Left on a wire rack they will dry to the size of walnuts, and almost as hard. The whites are very high in water and shrink considerably, while the yolk stays exactly its original size. The texture of the yolk is firm, like parmegiano reggiano or bottarga (both of which are intense, flavorful ingredients shaved and served in small quantities).

I microplane it over salads suggestive of caesar. The flavor of ash-cured proteins is more complex, and somehow reminiscent of oyster.
 
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Just as a side note, cream of tartar is a natural byproduct of storing grape juice or wine cold.  If you open a bottle of wine or juice and it has grit settled at the bottom, there's a good chance it's just unpurified cream of tartar. I get it in my mustang grape juice after refrigeration, just not in usable quantity.
 
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Michael Sohocki wrote:Hi Peter.

I think "cream of tartar" is acidic. At least, there is a food additive called tartaric acid--although it is irresponsible of me to suggest without looking into it.

The Pueblo Indians relied on fermentation to lower the PH in wet grain mash. I don't remember which tribe, but human saliva (from a select human) was even used to promote a particular bacterial profile.

Adding acid to eggwhite (or any other protein that I'm aware of) denatures and lengthens protein chains. In original form, they are all crumpled up like tightly crunched tinfoil. Acid does something to their mollecular binding properties, causing them to dissociate, more like a box of loose rubber bands. A little of this is helpful in whipping eggwhites because longer protein chains can hold a greater volume of air. Like me.

Now back to basics....

Wood ash is highly basic--like your baking soda. In the Foxfire Books (a fabulous record of a pre-electric society getting along in the mountains), there is described a wooden trough, the bottom lined with straw and then
stones, followed by wood ash from the fire. They would pour water in the top incrementally, which would percolate to the bottom to extract a mild (solution) lye. By either drying or heating they would concentrate this down until an egg would float in it, and this was the basis for soap and many other cleaning products.

It might interest you that this same lye is how the Jews of Eastern Europe got that shiny, crispy glaze on the outside of pretzels.

So what does ash do to an egg? I know less about this than I do about acids--but alkaline definitely does weird stuff to protein. It certainly darkens and denatures, so the texture of muscle tissue becomes sort of plastid and bouncy subjected to alkaline solutions. It also becomes slimy. Have you ever gotten bleach on your fingers, and you feel that slippery thing going on? There is a reaction happening between the strong base and the protein that your fingers are made of (and if you leave it there, it can mess you up pretty bad). You can reverse this process with a few drops of vinegar.

Rolling a boiled egg in pure wood ash probably has less to do with chemical reactions (neither the egg nor the ash are in an aqueous solution that would permit the chemical to travel far) than the simple removal of water. (3 days is shaveable, but it will hang out indefinitely)

Pathogens "require a water activity level of 1.0"  to reproduce effectively, so a peeled boiled egg rolled in ash is pretty near impenetrable. Left on a wire rack they will dry to the size of walnuts, and almost as hard. The whites are very high in water and shrink considerably, while the yolk stays exactly its original size. The texture of the yolk is firm, like parmegiano reggiano or bottarga (both of which are intense, flavorful ingredients shaved and served in small quantities).

I microplane it over salads suggestive of caesar. The flavor of ash-cured proteins is more complex, and somehow reminiscent of oyster.



COOL!

so i think i'm getting this.  the dough of some Pueblo Indians was made acidic by fermentation, to which they might add saliva, or chew some of the dough, thereby imparting their saliva, to encourage bacteria in the fermentation process.  then, they added a basic ingredient (wood ash).  When one takes an acidic dough (fermented) and combines it with a basic substance (wood ash or baking soda), you get a rising effect.   I WANT TO TRY THIS!!!   rising dough with wood ash!!!   of course you mentioned it was the white ash on the top.   NEAT.    i now understand why it was suggested that i make my own baking powder with cream of tartar (acidic) and baking soda (basic).  then, you don't have to worry about your dough being acidic by itself.  this also explains why my mom's Irish soda bread recipe calls for nothing but milk (basic) curdled with vinegar (acidic) and left for 15 minutes, and added to a dough of wheat, salt, raisins, etc.  i can't remember if any additional ingredients were required....perhaps an added boost of baking powder or soda?  wonder what would happen if just the vinegar and milk are used.

i love the idea of ashed grated dried boiled eggs on salad.  i visited a goat farmer once who made goat chev and rolled the cheese balls in ash.  you get flavor and texture and detox all in one!  

when you let the boiled eggs dry to the hardness of a walnut (the white part), is it easy to soften again when you want to use?  or do you just peel off the hard white layer and use the still softish yolk?
 
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the whites are really hard. you can grate them along with the yolk on a microplane, but it is cumbersome and you can cut yourself. It's preferable to take the whites off, when possible. Less chance of getting hurt.
 
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Back to Reality tried this and found that it didn't work.

 
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Back to Reality put theirs stem up in the box. The original post said stem down; wonder if that partly accounts for their failure? They also left them for longer than I think was recommended.
 
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Maybe the Back to Reality experiment didn't work because of the variety of tomato used.  It may have been too juicy or too ripe or not firm enough to begin with.  Also putting the stem down might have had a different result like someone else stated.  
I think putting peppers in the same box was not a good idea as they deteriorate differently than tomatoes and maybe their moisture was enough to wet the ash enough and to cause a rapid change in pH which reacted with the food?  
 
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Heading off topic a bit but this " this also explains why my mom's Irish soda bread recipe calls for nothing but milk (basic) curdled with vinegar (acidic) " is not quite right.

Milk contains Calcium so you might expect it to be basic but it is not, raw milk is slightly acidic and if you leave it for a few days it curdles naturally as the ecosystem biology of the milk continues to live and work on the other resources in the milk. Adding vinegar does not interact with the base but concentrates the acid and advances the curdling. I use it to make paneer from fresh or milk that is a day or so old.

If you make a low temperature cheese (around 32 for many cheeses -45 for haloumi) and extract the curd, try leaving the whey covered for 24 hours. That allows the whey to become quite a bit more acidic. Then all you have to do is bring it to the boil and you will see the remaining solids curdle out as ricotta (Italian for re-cooked). I find that it makes a finer, softer ricotta than just using vinegar or lemon straight after making the first cheese.
 
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I know I'm late to the party, but when I saw the story about ash preservation, I did some digging.
It turns out that ash is an ethylene scrubber (study: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/289879296_Kinetic_studies_of_ethylene_oxidation_by_potassium_permanganate_adsorbed_on_rice_hull_ash_lahar_ash_or_coconut_coir_dust). My guess is that by storing tomatoes in ash, it inhibits the spread of ethylene gas, which retards the ripening of the fruits and their neighbors. Maybe I could even store my apples in the potato cellar now, if I bury them in ash to keep the ethylene from running amok.
 
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This link provides a few resources on the topic of tomato storage that may be of interest.

https://www.echocommunity.org/resources/b0d94305-139f-4770-a231-df9bf3cd81c4

The list includes the original ECHO article mentioned at the top of the discussion.

Thanks for all of the great ideas!
 
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I started storing tomatoes in wood ashes about a couple months ago, of course they are store bought but can’t wait until my own are ripe. Unbelievable how well they store, still amazes me every time I go to get another tomato out of the ashes. Am wondering not what other veggies I can keep this way🤗
 
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 Hi Sharon!

....Can you please share some more details about the methods you use to achieve your results?

I'm new to this method and can't wait to give this a try!

Thank you for sharing!
 
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This is fascinating!

Years ago I brought all my green and ripening tomatoes in before the first killing frost.  Close to 100 pounds as a guess.  The task took days and days.  I didn’t store them in ash.  I hung loaded vines in frost free but cold garage.  I put them one layer deep in boxes (stem down seemed to distribute the weight over greater surface).

Slowly they ripened all over my unheated full of day light greatroom.  I surveyed the boxes regularly, and removed the ripe ones for use.  Removed any rotting ones immediately.  The chickens ate those.

In January and February I had ripe tomatoes.  At one point I had more tomatoes than I could use, so I juiced and canned them.

I had grown many varieties, and though some are better suited to this method of storing, it appeared to work pretty well across the board.

The flavor was not great, but in winter it is nice to have a variety of fresh foods.  They tasted about like a grocery store tomato (also picked green).

As I used the juice, the flavor was also disappointing.  I used it for soup and”green” smoothie base.

I think the unripe tomatoes had enough chlorophyll or were physiologically active enough to create the pigments, but did not make more sugar.  I made the assumption that the tomatoes were still pretty nutritious.  I just want folks to know not to expect the full flavor of a vine ripened home grown main season tomato.😉. These may be “vine ripened” by USDA standards, but we know how that works 😖.

Remembering that season, I think I will do it again!

Also want to mention that I once extracted lye from ashes.  The idea was to make soap with it.  But I couldn’t find a recipe for potassium hydroxide soap.  Most modern hand made soap recipes are for sodium hydroxide.  The two kinds of lye are not interchangeable in soap making.

And lastly, I didn’t see any mention that the potassium hydroxide in ashes is caustic.  That slippery feeling on your fingers indicates that your tissue is being degraded.  It is a chemical burn, and with long enough exposure you will feel it!  If you didn’t burn too deep, your skin will grow back, but it’s quite painful. For prolonged exposure to ashes and or potassium hydroxide -lye wear protection 🥰

 
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Hi Thelka, I really liked your post. On most occasions, I've stored tomatoes just like you said and had similar results. I stored less, so I used them up before we got to February but I do remember a year when a good number lasted through January. Like you, several varieties involved and they all stored OK. And the disappointing taste like a grocery store tomato, but heck, in winter you can't complain. One year I was desperate to make green tomato relish as I have many years and they kept ripening too fast for me to get a decent sized batch in... I guess worse things could happen to you!
 
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Hi Dave, I think we are in agreement!
And I know what you mean about the green tomato relish, and the ripening ones keeping me too busy!


It would be interesting to know if storing in ash would keep the ripe high sugar tomatoes fresher longer.  I don’t think I would go to the effort with green and unripened tomatoes.

It’s not a terrible problem by any means😊
 
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