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Alright, you got an evil one here....

Is it involved any way with sewing?
 
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Jay Angler wrote:

Jordan Holland wrote:It has nothing to do with wire, and it does not TIGHTEN a string around or to something.


Tightening baling twine before bigger machines that baled the whole bunch was a thing?



No, it's far too delicate for that. And it does not tighten anything. The functioning of the mechanism is quite effortless and the finished product is quite lax with nothing in it being tightened. Interestingly, almost all other devices of this ilk do tighten something, which makes this so unique.
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:Alright, you got an evil one here....

Is it involved any way with sewing?



Definitely.
 
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Is this type of machine still in use?
Or rather, a machine that does the same function.
 
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Something to put a casing on corset stays?
 
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For folding bias tape?
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:Is this type of machine still in use?
Or rather, a machine that does the same function.



Yes and no. The overall function, yes. The specific manner of function, no. What is so interesting is that the specific manner of function is generally done by hand, even today, as it's not particularly suited to being done by mechanical mechanisms. That is why modern devices use a different manner of function to achieve the same overall result.
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:For folding bias tape?



This is what I was just going to guess for its purpose!

Edit oh Iโ€™m actually not sure if bias tape means that, I was thinking the folding of the fabric that you do with an iron to sew it easily? I have no idea of the terminology, wikipedia of bias tape looked like it but I dont know. ๐Ÿ˜…
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:Something to put a casing on corset stays?



Nope.
 
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Aand while looking for ideas, ooh, look at this needle case !

 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:For folding bias tape?



Sorry, no.
 
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Oh you guys post stuff fast, I thought my edit would be on time..

My guess was a devise for folding the side on the fabric that you usually do with an iron so that it is easier to sew? I have no idea of the terminology. ๐Ÿ˜„
 
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Saana Jalimauchi wrote:Oh you guys post stuff fast, I thought my edit would be on time..

My guess was a devise for folding the side on the fabric that you usually do with an iron so that it is easier to sew? I have no idea of the terminology. ๐Ÿ˜„



No, y'all are still thinking too small!
 
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It vaguely reminds me of a (much less ornate, probably much newer - maybe 1940s-50s?) do-hicky we used in the first bakery where I worked, that kept & dispensed string, for tieing string around the boxes. Sort of a keeper/third hand function.
 
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Creasing or marking a hem?
 
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Sharpener for scissors??
 
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Does the crank work continually, or is it an in-and-back motion? It looks like for the crank to turn it would have to be mounted on the edge of something, where would the clamp mount on this device?
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:Does the crank work continually, or is it an in-and-back motion? It looks like for the crank to turn it would have to be mounted on the edge of something, where would the clamp mount on this device?


The clamp point is on the back. He didn't get the clamp with it. Shows on the picture of the back, lack of clamp mentioned in an early post on this.

This is a good one!
To me, this is how this game wants to be played! I'm totally entertained!! :D
 
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OK so there is a fence that allows a specified width, there is an adjustment that allows an adjustment for thickness. How thick is that adjustment ? the stop is not really a stop. Do you have to do something with that distance before you feed more through the machine? Does it have something to do with gloves?
 
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It looks like you push something flat in the side where the width adjuster is - there is a slot beside the knurled wheels opposite the crank handle. I'm thinking the central indentation in these wheels is significant, so maybe carries a thread? Does the long threaded spindle hold a spool? It doesn't look like there is the space for it, and why would it be threaded?

Lovely puzzle, thanks Jordan!
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:Does the crank work continually, or is it an in-and-back motion? It looks like for the crank to turn it would have to be mounted on the edge of something, where would the clamp mount on this device?



Both, lol! The clamp holds it on the edge of a table so the crank hangs off the edge and can be rotated 360 degrees. It needs to be able to turn several times one way and then back a bit every so often.
 
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Tereza, Robert, and Nancy have really nailed down the important factors now. I planned to make this a two parter, and we are getting into the second part. So, I think I will go ahead and reveal what it is so we can move on to the second part.




IT'S A SEWING MACHINE!!!?



Part Deux: Can you figure out from the pictures and descriptions how in the world can this thing possibly sew?
 
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is this a thing for sewing the end of sacks shut???

(I hope you can eventually take pics of how this thing works. Ive been running errands all afternoon and thinking about this blessed thing the whole time!!)
 
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The needle is passed through the groove?
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:is this a thing for sewing the end of sacks shut???

I've been thinking the same thing! But I don't get the "stop" part.
 
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Maybe the stop is if you have to backstitch when using it, that way you have a reference point. The scale is so small specifically for quilts?
 
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Tereza Okava wrote:is this a thing for sewing the end of sacks shut???

(I hope you can eventually take pics of how this thing works. Ive been running errands all afternoon and thinking about this blessed thing the whole time!!)



It could probably sew a flour sack shut, but a feed sack would most likely be too thick. It would be quite awkward if the sack was filled. It does not make a chain stitch either, which would be desirable for a sack. It is for couture.
 
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Robert Ray wrote:The needle is passed through the groove?



Yes, somewhat.
 
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Robert Ray wrote:Maybe the stop is if you have to backstitch when using it, that way you have a reference point. The scale is so small specifically for quilts?



It can't backstitch. It could quilt pieces together, but is a finer stitch pattern than I have ever seen on a quilt top, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
 
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I know what it is, but will give two clues just to keep the thread alive rather than identify the actual item.
New York dressmaker and;
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5f/0b/95/f16c142826911a/US35252.pdf



 
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Great refernce material. Looks like the grooves are for thread similar to the thread from a bobbin and then one manually sticthes over the groove thread?
 
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I'll put you all out of your misery.
https://www.fiddlebase.com/running-stitch-machines/
 
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Clever now I see how it operates. I was stuck on a vertical movement with the needle instead of horizontal.
 
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It's a lovely find <3 - thanks for sharing it with us.
I can't quite work out how you move on to the next bit of fabric after the needle is full: Do you tighten the gears down to pinch the needle, wind the stop back, pull out the fabric onto the thread and then pinch the fabric under the (blunt) end of the needle tightening the stop again and loosening the gear tension before winding the handle to crimp the next bit of fabric? I get the feeling that a few springs might make it a bit smoother in operation.
I bet it makes lovely even spaced stitches though!
 
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Nancy Reading wrote:It's a lovely find <3 - thanks for sharing it with us.
I can't quite work out how you move on to the next bit of fabric after the needle is full: Do you tighten the gears down to pinch the needle, wind the stop back, pull out the fabric onto the thread and then pinch the fabric under the (blunt) end of the needle tightening the stop again and loosening the gear tension before winding the handle to crimp the next bit of fabric? I get the feeling that a few springs might make it a bit smoother in operation.
I bet it makes lovely even spaced stitches though!


Can't help I'm afraid. My idea of fixing things normally involves just banging a few nails into it.
 
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A member of a beginner blacksmithing group on Facebook found this trowel-like thing. Perhaps someone in this thread knows what it does.
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I bet I could get a bowl of ice cream with it lol
 
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Looks to me like someone took a shoehorn and turned it into a trowel?  
 
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Personally, I'm inclined to think it's for melting or at least softening, a small quantity of a metal that softens at a fairly low temperature - copper for example - that is to be worked for jewelry or similar.
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