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These little metal things were in a handful of sewing stuff I bought. No clue what they are.
Knife for scale, they are about 3/4 inch long, fairly sturdy metal, would take me effort to bend one.

No guess what they are. Anyone know?
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I'm guessing that the reinforced round area is for stitching the gizmo to the fabric. I'm more wildly guessing that you position the "handle" part so that it reinforces a corner that you don't want to curl. Nowadays, it would be a bit of plastic sewn into the front corners of a fancy dress shirt.

It will be interesting how far off my wild guess is... I may have been influenced by it being bought with sewing bits and it's really some obscure latch system (put a screw through the round part just tight enough that the "handle" part can swivel).  

Let's go further with that last thought - some drawers have something similar at the back. You swivel it up towards the ceiling and it stops the drawer from falling out if you pull it too far forward. But if you want to remove the drawer, you swivel it down so it's flush with the top back of the drawer, and now the drawer can be removed. One this size would be used on a cabinet that has lots of tiny drawers, not something like a kitchen drawer or large dresser drawer.
 
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Picture frame retainers.
 
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Robert Ray wrote:Picture frame retainers.

A local shop ID's them as "turn buttons" and dumps them in with picture frame retainers, so you likely get the prize this time.

That said, if they're considered "turn buttons", anything that benefits from a small turn button that doesn't get frequent use, could be a good use for the little guys.
 
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Awesome!! Thank you!!  
I was misled by the sewing part too.
Cool!
:D
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:Awesome!! Thank you!!  
I was misled by the sewing part too.
Cool!
:D



It's amazing what people will mix in with sewing stuff, lol! From my chainstitch thread:

I decided to recheck the large cabinet the machine came in. It was quite a mess with lots of thread, bindings, lace, random papers, a video game cartridge, a book on golf, a coupon for 25c off a 32oz. or larger bottle of Heinz ketchup that expired in November of 1986, and other stuff piled in all the shelves and drawers.

 
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I got a good one last night. This will be quite difficult to guess without knowing what it is:
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Jordan Holland wrote:

Pearl Sutton wrote:Awesome!! Thank you!!  
I was misled by the sewing part too.
Cool!
:D



It's amazing what people will mix in with sewing stuff, lol! From my chainstitch thread:

I decided to recheck the large cabinet the machine came in. It was quite a mess with lots of thread, bindings, lace, random papers, a video game cartridge, a book on golf, a coupon for 25c off a 32oz. or larger bottle of Heinz ketchup that expired in November of 1986, and other stuff piled in all the shelves and drawers.



Actually this whole thread started (OH so many pages ago!) with stuff that I could tell had been cleaned out of/off of someone's desk after they died, ended up in the trash. Stuff I couldn't ID I started a thread to ask, then we turned it into a game.

People mix stuff up, and then the rest of us are puzzled :D
 
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I was actually wondering if I would be able to find the small turn buttons for picture frame retainers anywhere. I feel better about my chances.

Many years ago, when the moon was new and I was young, my Dad taught me how to make picture frames to suit, and I have been thinking it would be a fun thing to do for a few partially done projects lying around here (and some things that had been framed, but time and humidity have done for that).
Thank you for showing me that I might be able to find them somewhere. Very cool!
 
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Okay - it's used to space something or measure something. The pin would hold a bunch of small cards in place, if there was a hole through which it could pass. The way it's set up reminds me of some sort of gauge.
No real clue, but I would happily play with it and imagine things.
 
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There are measuring marks on the two pieces of steel full and half marks. But what is it measuring?
 
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The pin holds several things in place at once, but not cards. I don't really understand the reason for the measuring marks. These things were made in different sizes. A given size could be used on items up to its maximum width. I would imagine it would be simplest to just place a smaller item at the edge to index it, but maybe the marks were to allow people to place smaller items in the center of the device's jaws for some reason.
 
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The attached piece of flat metal looks like it pushes something down and has a stop bent in it, to the depth of the two sides,  stopping at the surface of the grooves. Can we see the backside?
 
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So, like a clamp of some kind? A brace/support that would hold something/s while you did other things the them?
I had said "card" as a shorthand for "random item that fits into the space and can be placed in the slots and held in place with the pin". I would guess that Random Item could be anything from a plastic bread-tie tab to weaving cards, from thin pieces of wood to smallish wooden tags, flat bits of some material.
Without being able to play with it to see how sturdy, large, or heavy it is, I'm stuck with thinking of it as a brace, clamp, or jig.
 
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hmm.. Involving livestock tags?
 
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Robert Ray wrote:The attached piece of flat metal looks like it pushes something down and has a stop bent in it, to the depth of the two sides,  stopping at the surface of the grooves. Can we see the backside?



There's nothing to see on the back. I haven't figured out what the flat piece does, but I do notice new ones do not come with it, and many old ones didn't have it. I assume it is not essential, but maybe a gauge or something. Oddly, I did see some old ones that had a small rudimentary set of scissors chained to it. Don't know what they would have been for.
 
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Kristine Keeney wrote:So, like a clamp of some kind? A brace/support that would hold something/s while you did other things the them?
I had said "card" as a shorthand for "random item that fits into the space and can be placed in the slots and held in place with the pin". I would guess that Random Item could be anything from a plastic bread-tie tab to weaving cards, from thin pieces of wood to smallish wooden tags, flat bits of some material.
Without being able to play with it to see how sturdy, large, or heavy it is, I'm stuck with thinking of it as a brace, clamp, or jig.



It does clamp, itself in turn being clamped in a vice to do so. It is quite sturdy, as it did heavy work. The pin held in place something steel as you describe.
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:hmm.. Involving livestock tags?



No, but while these are fairly rare today, about a century ago they would have been common on many farms, shops, factories, etc.
 
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Does it make a fastener?
 
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Robert Ray wrote:Does it make a fastener?



Though it's not called a fastener, I think it technically could fit the definition. The actual name makes you think it would be more at home in sewing than in industry.
 
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Is it for setting staple "stitches" in animals after surgery?
 
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Jay Angler wrote:Is it for setting staple "stitches" in animals after surgery?



It's not for animals, but you're getting close with the staples idea.
 
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Jay Angler wrote:Is it for setting staple "stitches" in animals after surgery?


It's not for animals, but you're getting close with the staples idea.

OK - for closing bags of produce? Particularly burlap bags or similar that are quite thick, so they'd be hard to tie at the top, and if stapled across the top, they'd stack better too.
 
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I'm thinking the word basting... or threading....
 
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Jay Angler wrote:OK - for closing bags of produce? Particularly burlap bags or similar that are quite thick, so they'd be hard to tie at the top, and if stapled across the top, they'd stack better too.



Nope, not used on bags or to seal anything shut. It would be a bit overkill for that and the 4" width would be a bit tedious for larger sacks to have to do multiple passes.
 
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Pearl Sutton wrote:I'm thinking the word basting... or threading....



Closer to threading, but almost rhymes with basting, lol!
 
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Making a casing? I was thinking a cotter key bender, but why would you need so many cotter keys. Something to do with leather, harness work? Can you access the grooves from the side?
 
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No casings or cotter pins, but at the end a pin made of rawhide would be used before one could get back to work.
 
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Lace cutter, pin holds a blade or blades?
 
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Robert Ray wrote:Lace cutter, pin holds a blade or blades?



Getting closer, but it's not a cutter.
 
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Punching holes? Rawhide pin holds material and indexes next course?
 
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Robert Ray wrote:Punching holes? Rawhide pin holds material and indexes next course?



The device does not directly punch holes, but you could say the first inserted media punches (and fills) holes into the second inserted media to create a finished product. The rawhide pin is not used at the same time as this device. After this device does it's thing, then the rawhide pin is used to join the pieces together.
 
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A book binder of some sort?
 
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Shea Loner wrote:A book binder of some sort?



Not for books. Here's a big hint:
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flap belt repair
 
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Robert Ray wrote:flap belt repair



Yep, it's a flat belt lacing tool. The steel "laces" came imbedded in a paper card that held them together until they could be inserted into the grooves in the tool. The pin was inserted to hold them in the proper place and the card was removed. The end of the belt was placed against the tool and it was then compressed in the vise to crimp the laces in place.
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That was a good one. Now I see how it works
 
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I found a video with more of how they work:
 
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Here's the newest one. It has a very specific function. It's just a piece of glass. I have never seen one this large before.
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I'll start the discussion by suggesting it's for putting out a large candle. It was probably attached by a string to some sort of long handle for reaching.
 
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