Flora Eerschay wrote:
If I had a stopwatch, and measured the time of *actual suffering* of a respectfully harvested animal, and compared it to the amount of time that many animals suffer during veterinary treatment, I think the latter is worse.
...harvesting them before they get old and weak saves them some dignity.
...be very miserable losing sight, hearing, ability to run
Trace Oswald wrote:I think that same argument could be used to euthanize any person suffering a terminal illness.
I just don't think the points you made will sway people away from veganism, if indeed, that is your purpose in this case.
elle sagenev wrote:
As far as killing people, I'm for that too. We know someone who suffered cancer and was slowly suffocating to death. It became so terrifying to him they had to put him in a coma until he eventually died. I don't want that. I want to be able to make the choice of when I will die if I become unhealthy or senile. I never want my kids to suffer watching me with alzheimers or dementia, and I don't want to suffer either. Just let me go.
elle sagenev wrote:Now we have killed something more sentient, our pigs. The first time it went really bad. We felt awful. It was awful. We said we were never, ever going to do that again because we do not want our animals to suffer, even in death. The second time went way better. My husband is an excellent shot and both pigs dropped dead immediately. One minute they were happy eating, the next, gone.
Devin Lavign wrote:It is easy to act vegetarian or vegan in the city where the onivores are making life possible for you. Rural life being vegetarian or vegan is not so easy. .
Nicky McGrath wrote: