Actually inheriting property: How do you do it?

So let's say I go through and warm a bunch of the homesteading badges and what have you. I get to a point where I know good and well I could run 50-100 acres no problem. How do I make Otis down the street aware of this without coming off sounding super thirsty for him to give me his land? Would a classified ad in the local paper be a good idea simply indicating I'm looking for land to inherit? Have any of you been successful SKIPping? How did you manage it?

I think one way to do it is to put yourself in a position to be known by as many Otises as you can.  Either by joining clubs/organizations they are in or by dating their daughters or meeting them at church.  If they meet you and take a shine to you, there's a better chance of the magic happening.  Of course, posting here on permies is another way to do that as well.

Another related way is to offer to do work for them for free.  Maybe some BBs.  Tell them you're doing this permaculture program and need to do projects.  They get the fruit of your labor and hopefully you don't break too much stuff in the process.  Then they might get curious about PEP and the magic happens.

There's a good chance that the older they are, the more likely they are to need help.  And if they have help already (kids, etc) there's a good chance they won't want to will their land to non-family anyway.

I kinda doubt you'd have much luck by directly asking or putting up an ad.  

To expand on the title- "Actually inheriting property: How do you do it?"

Legally, how do you do it once you have an Otis?

Let's say Otis would like you to come build a home on their property before they have passed, but you can't get a permit to build unless you own the land. Does Otis... put your name on the deed? Give you a 100 year lease? [Insert other idea I'm not aware of because I'm not a lawyer?]

Anyone have any idea how this stuff works?

Or do we all have to independently walk blindly into a discussion with a lawyer, who is going to be confused as all get out why Otis wants to place random person Y on the deed (and/or will) of their land, because no one wants to give anything that sounds like legal advice online?

Edit: I found a post that discusses these issues here

Rebecca Blake wrote:To expand on the title- "Actually inheriting property: How do you do it?"

Legally, how do you do it once you have an Otis?

Let's say Otis would like you to come build a home on their property before they have passed, but you can't get a permit to build unless you own the land. Does Otis... put your name on the deed? Give you a 100 year lease? [Insert other idea I'm not aware of because I'm not a lawyer?]

Anyone have any idea how this stuff works?

Or do we all have to independently walk blindly into a discussion with a lawyer, who is going to be confused as all get out why Otis wants to place random person Y on the deed (and/or will) of their land, because no one wants to give anything that sounds like legal advice online?

Edit: I found a post that discusses these issues here

Lawyers are usually happy to take your money and do what you want in the most legal way possible. And people add names to land deeds all the time. None of the lawyer's business what the purpose of the addition is, just to make it legally binding so the Department of Making You Unhappy can't fuck with you.

Great question! I was wondering the same. Has anyone here really inherited land from someone other than family?
Following this one.

I think that most people attend a university for four years so they can get a good job.  I wonder if in the early days of the first university if there were people saying "prove it."

At the same time, there are people that are attending universities simply for their personal hunger for knowledge.  

And universities can charge $10,000 to $100,000 per year.  

So here we have a free program.  And it is a great program for those that have a hunger for knowledge.   And, I started it based on the long list of elderly people that contacted me seeking somebody worthy to inherit their land.  I use Mike Oehler as a frequent example.  Mostly because he was calling me every two months asking me this for the last 18 months of his life.  

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I conducted 450 technical interviews for software engineering.  For each interview, I was given a resume for the candidate.  The resume had great value for other interviewers or influencers in the hiring process.  It had little value to me.   If they had a degree, I thought "they have the ability to navigate a bullshit maze - a good skill for any job."  

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We already have a list of Otises.   And a few peppers getting started in the program.  

The Otises need somebody to prove their worth.  The PEP program is about that.

When an Otis and a pepper decide to do this - that's between them.   I think it would be nice if this community can find a way to help make it happen.  But a university does not guaranteed a good job, nor does the university pen the agreement between the employer and the new employee.   And the university has a million times more coin to work with than the PEP program.  So I feel like this topic is a great one to discuss, but some of the subtext I am finding in this discussion seems to be that the PEP program cannot work unless this is done.  

So I just wanted to take a moment to make it clear that the PEP program is nothing more than a framework for documenting what a person has done.  And this framework does sport the label "skills to inherit property."

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All that said, I think the first person to get PEP2 certified will have their choice of 20 Otises.   The details of each Otis offer is beyond the scope of definition of PEP.   Perhaps a permie lawyer will step up and turn this into some sort of business?

How can a property owner find out more about the Otis list?

K

Kate Michaud wrote:How can a property owner find out more about the Otis list?

These two threads might help:

  https://permies.com/t/141383/skills-inherit-property/Otises

  https://permies.com/t/141381/skills-inherit-property/legal-relationship-Otis-PEPper


Or maybe it is time to start a new thread.  I get the impression that you wish to declare your otis-ness?

D.W. Stratton wrote:So let's say I go through and warm a bunch of the homesteading badges and what have you. I get to a point where I know good and well I could run 50-100 acres no problem. How do I make Otis down the street aware of this without coming off sounding super thirsty for him to give me his land? Would a classified ad in the local paper be a good idea simply indicating I'm looking for land to inherit? Have any of you been successful SKIPping? How did you manage it?

I just inherited the family farm.  Shortly after the funeral my (10 year older) cousin and his wife came out and visited during which he announces that I should give him 10 acres.  To which I replied. "Why didn't you ask your uncle?"  No one wishes to simply give what they have spent their life working for to someone who just a simply wants it.  IMO.  At any rate my cousin (The self proclaimed "Smartest man in the world".)  isn't moving here!  lol

So if your cousin had impressed his uncle by building all these experiences, and if his uncle didn't have a closer relation to will it to, it sounds like your cousin may have inherited some property.

Mike Haasl wrote:So if your cousin had impressed his uncle by building all these experiences, and if his uncle didn't have a closer relation to will it to, it sounds like your cousin may have inherited some property.

I'd  venture to go out on a limb and say "It would have been a cold day in hell."