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Are there climbing alliums?

 
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I lost a LOT of squash to fungus and squash beetles this year, not the borers, just the bugs. I'm going to be putting them on arbors next year, ( What squash climb the best? ) and am visualizing something bug repellent like garlic that would climb the arbors too. Is there such thing as an allium that climbs arbors?

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I don't know of any,  but maybe you could grow garlic or onion in little pots hanging from the arbor?

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MK Neal: That was my first thought too, but pots are not surviving well here, I'm disabled and busy, and can't always keep them watered when things are bad or good enough that I can work. So I'm hoping for climbing ones that are easier to maintain :D

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Not that I know of...  But walking onions put up a relatively tall shoot with bulbils on it.  It probably reaches 3' high.  If the stalk is nestled among vines the bulbils might put their own stalks up and reach another couple feet by the end of summer.  Without support the main stalk falls over and the bulbils are planted 3' away, thus the name "walking" onions.

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Squash bugs move up from the ground, so any alliums around the stem should help.  Garlic chives are the easiest to multiply, but they are invasive. I don’t like the flavor much either. Walking onions are probably best. They multiply easily, but you can usually kill them with a lawn mower.
 
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Ken W Wilson wrote:Squash bugs move up from the ground, so any alliums around the stem should help.  


I wondered about that. Part of why I'm going to make my squash climb next year. They do fly though, I have seen them. I am planning to put alot of rowdy deterrents on the ground level.

I got a book at a booksale yesterday, one of Rodale's big books of pests and controls, will be reading the squash section of it soon! I glanced enough to see that nasturtiums will help with bugs, need to see what else might climb with them and annoy the bugs.





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Try looking for plants that hire help. Luffa vines made a big difference in my garden last year; they feed nectar to protective red ants at EFNs (extra floral nectaries) in exchange for defense services. Essentially they hired bouncers. The red ants didn't limit their protection to just the luffa vine. They guarded my elderberries, scarlet runner beans, nasturtiums and basil. They evicted the black farmer ants and their aphid herds. Basically they wouldn't let any insect near their territory except bees and butterflies (and even those were watched closely).

So perhaps if you plant a luffa vine moderately close to your squash vines, you can have red ants protecting them from squash beetles this year. Be aware that luffa vine is enormous and needs frequent trimming to keep it from massive overgrowth, though. Don't put it too close to any other vine that wants space; the lyffa might steal its trellis.
 
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hm.. Last year my blackeye peas had a rowdy case of ant and wasps on them....  Why are there rowdy bugs on my blackeye peas?  I saw no other bugs on them...

I have luffa seed, I'll add some of them :D
I might interplant blackeyes also.

That's an interesting thought. Thank you :D

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Not a direct answer, but a spray made from crushed garlic might help out, or maybe put braids of garlic amidst the squash.

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William Bronson wrote: Not a direct answer, but a spray made from crushed garlic might help out, or maybe put braids of garlic amidst the squash.


That made me think, wonder if something like potpourri bags full of garlic etc tied in the vines/arbors would do any good? I don't have enough to braid, but I can fill bags...
Wonder what else would go interesting in a bug repellent bag. I have several hundred little herb bags, about 2x4 inches, I don't care to use them all up, but I have enough to experiment with. Hmmmm

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Pearl Sutton wrote:Wonder what else would go interesting in a bug repellent bag. I have several hundred little herb bags, about 2x4 inches, I don't care to use them all up, but I have enough to experiment with. Hmmmm



How did it work out last year, Pearl?  did you try the repellant bags?  Would love to know!

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Michele Morken wrote:

Pearl Sutton wrote:Wonder what else would go interesting in a bug repellent bag. I have several hundred little herb bags, about 2x4 inches, I don't care to use them all up, but I have enough to experiment with. Hmmmm



How did it work out last year, Pearl?  did you try the repellant bags?  Would love to know!


Didn't try the bags. Too messy of a year. Ended up losing almost everything I planted to weather or bugs.
Trying nematodes this year  :D
They eat bug eggs and baby bugs.

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Back to the original question of climbing alliums... I do not know of any. I do know of the Giganteum strain of Giant Alliums that can get between 4ft and 5ft tall. That could cover a lot of stuff without actually climbing.

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