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Possibly, not not likely.G B Spencer wrote: I started storing my chickens' eggs in lime water. I had no problems for weeks and weeks, and just now checked my first bucket, and the water is turning color and there's a bad smell. Very frustrating especially considering the cost of eggs right now!
I'm going to go transfer them all over to a new bucket just to inspect them, but I'm probably going to just throw them all away, just to be safe.
They were stored under the water level the entire time, so that's not the issue. I had the lid of the bucket cracked a bit; could that be the issue (impurities got in somehow)?
G B Spencer wrote: Do I need to change out the water occasionally during the storage duration?
G B Spencer wrote:Increase the concentration of lime? (it's already not totally dissolving, so I don't think that's it).
G B Spencer wrote:I know I'm not supposed to use non-washed but also not dirty eggs, but if there's bacteria on a "clean" egg there's no way for me to tell, and so I don't think that could be the issue since people have been doing this since forever. Centuries even?
Anyway, I'd appreciate any experience/suggestions you all might have.
Thanks!
GB
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I've been doing it successfully, for several years, now, and have had no problems with bad eggs, even with as long as 2 1/2yrs storage - UNLESS they got too warm, or there were broken eggs.
I've used them for baking, scrambling, omelets, quiche, fritattas, etc, and no odd flavors - even when the lime water was stinky. Even my (retired chef) hubby didn't realize that's what I was using, for all the above. In fact, the first year we did it(I only threw away one batch, that year - and only one since, because of a broken one) we were nearly out of them, before he even realized our hens weren't laying, and asked if we were going to start using the stored ones, because he was leary of them, lol.
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Kristine Keeney wrote:
Reading the details is lovely and knowing that you have managed it, successfully, is a relief. (I hadn't yet heard of anyone being successful - just all kinds of Do Nots and horror stories.) Thank you.
Now to sort out storage containers. (let the eye rolling commence!)[
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Carla Burke wrote:
I do keep roosters - not a problem. And, no, I'd not sell them. I'll will share them with friends, but most folks are leary.
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Thekla McDaniels wrote:My best understanding is that cottage law differs from state to state, and not all states have them.
I am most familiar with the regulations in Colorado. Things could come from a home kitchen if they were not prone to spoiling or contamination. Rather than letting us go on our own with that, there is a list. Baked goods qualify but pickles don’t. Potato salad doesn’t. Somethings could not be sold even if they came through a commercial kitchen.
We could sell fresh eggs in Colorado, but not unrefrigerated eggs, probably not eggs preserved by the methods we are discussing here.
It is a frustrating situation, the cottage law was created in Colorado to “allow people the right to sell things directly” in the end it really decreased what a person could legally sell from their own kitchen, And created the means to prosecute people if they sold anything not on the cottage law list. And it appears that the law was written for ease of enforcement, because often times the inspectors were less knowledgeable than the food producers.
Sorry to go off topic, is there a thread about cottage law?
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Carla Burke wrote:"One question: Can you reuse the significant amount of lime at the bottom of the jar?"
I don't. That doesn't mean you can't, but I find that one the lime starts smelling even a bit like ammonia, even though I know those eggs are fine, I'm loathe to add any fresh ones back into the same container. It may be fine, but I just can't bring myself to do it, lol.
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Appy Horsey wrote:
**If you can occasionally go in and turn the eggs, they'll last longer than just being stuck in the back of a cabinet(my usual, honestly). The very few that weren't good, in mine, were the ones that didn't get turned for a very long time - namely the 2 1/2yr batch - had 2 or 3 eggs in it, where the yolk had sunk to the bottom in the shell, and became attached to it.**
What do you mean by "turn" them? You turn the container around? Or you actually reach into the solution and turn each and every egg?
Thanks.
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Vickey McDonald wrote:Haven't gotten around to trying Lime water glassing yet. Haven't found a good source for the lime in bulk yet. I live about 100 miles from the closest large hardware store in a very small rural village. I have found some online but shipping costs to Alaska can be extreme.
I learned how to do it from this video. I have watched many of her videos, and follow her home website.
What I have done to preserve was coating eggs in a thick layer of lard, laying out a single layer on an old bath towel (or even newspapers in thick layers in a box with a cover and keeping in the coldest spot in our house. Lasted us for 6 months and probably would have lasted longer. Didn't loose even one egg. These were not store bought of course.
I love pickled eggs, however, every recipe I have ever found said they needed to be refrigerated. Not sure what is added to commercial ones that they do not need refrigeration. Wish there was a way not to refrigerate as we are off grid and do not have refrigeration available right now.
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Carla Burke wrote:
My pleasure! Glad to help! And, guess what fancy containers I use. No, really. Guess. Nope. Huh-uh. Not that, either. Nah - try again. Give up? I use whatever I can get my hands on. Plastic coffee containers, tupperware, pickle jars, Mason jars, mayo jars, even the plastic jars my collagen comes in. It just needs to hold water. If it's going into a dark cabinet or closet, it doesn't even have to be a dark container.
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David Fraleigh wrote:Speaking of preserving eggs,... In the past I have often enjoyed pickled hard-boiled eggs. As a kid, I used to purchase them at a store where they came out of a non-refrigerated gallon glass jar that the store owner kept on his counter . They were peeled hard-boiled eggs (and were stained red). This topic has got me wondering whether pickling eggs can be a way of long-lasting storing of them. It is my suspicion that they probably have to be refrigerated as well...
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One question: Can you reuse the significant amount of lime at the bottom of the jar?"
I don't. That doesn't mean you can't, but I find that once the lime starts smelling even a bit like ammonia, even though I know those eggs are fine, I'm loathe to add any fresh ones back into the same container. It may be fine, but I just can't bring myself to do it, lol.
Al Marlin wrote:
One question: Can you reuse the significant amount of lime at the bottom of the jar?"
I don't. That doesn't mean you can't, but I find that once the lime starts smelling even a bit like ammonia, even though I know those eggs are fine, I'm loathe to add any fresh ones back into the same container. It may be fine, but I just can't bring myself to do it, lol.
I'm saving my old lime water to reuse this summer to whitewash the inside of my coops.
In the summer, my girls spend their days outside, running about. So I'm not worried about any additional ammonia smell in the coop as that will dissipate quickly once the whitewash dries.
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Al Marlin wrote:For my lime whitewash, all I do is add (pickling/ non-iodized) salt to my lime mixture. The lime/salt combo seems to help keep the nasties down in the coop while not being toxic to the girls. And since summers are very humid here, I figure the coops walls actively cycle as the humidity raises and falls (& the walls lighten up and appear not whitewashed and then dry again and go a dark white).
I was reassured that my whitewashing is probably on the right track when I visited Upper Canada Village (a live museum running as if it were the 1860's) last summer. After each milking, the farmer shoveled any manure off the floor and then threw down a bucket of lime water whitewash. This was the only sanitizing they did of the milking stalls. Since they sell their dairy products, this procedure must meet with current standards as well.
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Kit Collins wrote:Amount of Lime + Vinegar pickling without refrigeration
(1) I've done lime preservation once, following online suggestions for quantity of pickling lime and water. It seems that most of the lime I added to the water precipitated to the bottom, and simply stays there. I doubt that the lime on the bottom is really doing anything other than perhaps providing a "soft bed" for the eggs on the bottom. Might it be possible to use, say, half the lime and get the same preservation effect?
(2) In some restaurant supply groceries in my area, they sell hard-boiled eggs in big gallon jars. I believe these are in an acidic liquid (like vinegar or citric acid). They are not refrigerated. If I remember right, one brand said "refrigerate after opening" and another brand didn't. For people interested in non-refrigerated acidic-pickled boiled eggs, it might be good to look at ingredients list of these types of commercially sold eggs.
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