Craig Dobbelyu wrote:I suspect that meat would be prepared by curing, pickling, drying and the like. In that way you could feasibly store it for a while. Of course fresh meat from healthy animals could in most cases be eaten raw. MMMMM
Chris Kott wrote:I am uncomfortable with all this segregation. Before you know it, the huspians will be raiding the permies for being too toxic, the permies will drive their cars through symbiland to attack the huspians, and all will be chaos and death.
Okay, so perhaps that's a little dramatic. But honestly, I think that if it were to develop organically (sorry for the pun) as opposed to segregation by number, I think we'd find that perhaps individual buildings might be classed as Permie, Symbi, or HUSP, for instance. The HUSP buildings, by definition, would not have extensive kitchens, but much simpler food storage and preparation areas, as the technology to do more complicated, energy-intensive preparation and preservation food tasks would be located in the other two types of structure. HUSP structures would likely be used for activities that don't need, well, anything, like meditation, sleep, prayer (for those however inclined), daytime child-minding and teaching (More on teaching later). Places where there is no electricity because you don't need it. Likewise, the activities that couldn't be done without electricity would occupy the Symbi buildings, and I'm sure that part of the parking lot and visitors area would have to be a bit permie, allowing for people parking their cars. Land use could follow similar patterns, except that, with cheaper and more efficient electric traction, there would be no call for fossil fuels, ergo no real reason for a giant chunk of land where it's necessary. So areas with mechanical cultivation would end up being symbi, and those that are tended with animal traction, or just grazed for maintenance, or just plain let wild would be HUSP.
I don't know if this fits within the original parameters of the idea, but it would result in function-delineated territorial lines that would result in not only more HUSP and Symbiculture, but more people making use of the lower-energy areas. To be clear, I refer to the use of high-cost energy when I say that.
I haven't heard of natural gas addressed here, or methane from whatever source for the purpose of cooking on a gas stove, though I suppose you could make a woodgas generator and feed it into a conventional gas stove, but would it be permie, symbi, or what? Personally, I like the idea of an induction range that will boil water in 90 seconds, although I do enjoy cooking with gas and would find it an adjustment to learn on anything else.
As to education, there is an idea out there, an example of which can be found in fiction in S.M. Stirling's Island in the Sea of Time series, that being that the mental faculties of peoples belonging to cultures with extensive oral histories but no written way of recording them would of necessity have developped either complex mnemonic systems to help with recall, or else they simply would have had better recall and more memory because they were constantly using them. This is not to suggest that we should do away with writing, but that perhaps we should think about drills and repetition, and about how we teach children AND adults, and perhaps that the newest of educational ideas might not be the best. One example: I have a nine-year-old little brother (he's 19.75 years younger than me) who is going through an educational system I don't even recognise. He's bright and has no problems other than motivation to do work he finds boring, but he has had none of the drill that was the norm for me, not even in handwriting. They've just hit cursive writing this year, two years later than the latest I'd ever heard of it being done. As you can guess, he and his whole class (generation?) spend their free time glued to a screen, sometimes two at once, and their handwriting, to an individual, is abysmal. Most don't know their timestables properly, have problems with arithmetic, and still feel they are given way too much work to do, though they get little enough compared to what I used to get. I'd love to know if there'd be a new take (or old one, or whatever) here. I think that if most classroom learning that didn't require electronic computation was done in a HUSP way, there would be no issues of cellphone distractions, doing internet/social network things on classroom time, or ADHD caused by unknown toxins and pollutants in the deteriorating cheap building materials.
That's my bit. If this has caused you to have ideas, I'd love to hear about them.
I suppose there might be some people that don't give a damn about internet or cooked food. Or light at night. So they are more likely to be comfortable with husp.
paul wheaton wrote:
- zero paint allowed
- no plastics
- no galvanized stuff
- stainless steel and glass are okay
- no electricity
- no plumbing
- nothing is ever burned (no fire, no candles)