Invoking the 48 hour rule

I am not sure if I know how to do this properly, but I would like Paul Wheaton to respond to my post, can soil biology fix nutrient imbalance.

Please pay special attention to my last post, where I clarify things a bit.

If I am not doing this correctly, or if this rule is not operational anymore, please let me know.

Not sure if he will be back to active again in that time. I know he is taking a bit of time away.

Here's the link - https://permies.com/t/40040/soil/soil-biology-fix-nutrient-imbalance#313808

-et all : DO NOT let my Post Highjack this thread !

What if Paul takes 6 months off ! What if he loses in an altercation with one of the intercontinental missiles Coal Trains. Yes he runs a Dictatorship!
Is he such an Autocrat that no one is willing to step into the breach. This is simple, after a few days if he doesn't like what he sees, he can always throw the
money changers out of the temple ! Make virgin sacrifices to the volcano !

In short, follow the W.W.P.D. rule, Or as a back up you can always ask the oracle to look at some snake innards ! Big AL

er .......... Whats the 48 hour rule ?
Are people expecting Paul to answer emails/ posts in 48 hours ?
I think if so its an unreasonal expectation of them .

David

It's explained a bit here.

Here's a quote

Years ago I would get so much email that I started some forums. The forums got so big and sorta became a community of its own, so I split them off to their own domain. The permaculture forums have since become larger than all other permaculture web sites combined. If you post something there and you specifically want my feedback and 48 hours have passed without anything from me, post to the "tinkering" forum with the subject line of "invoking the 48 hour rule" - and put a link to thread in the post.

As far as I know the rule still stands.

I used to be a manager in Public service dealing with folks who had problems . High pressure stuff . I used to rate my staff into two groups, group one needed a kick up the backside every now and then . Group two needed to be held back least they did too much and stressed themdselves out . I see Paul as a group two person he wants to do more, His is good at what he does , he is a total believer in what he does . This is a great strength and also a weakness . I assume we all want him to do more and I think the way to do it is to expect him to do less and thus give him the freedom to do more .
Looking at your link it appears to have been written many years ago I would suggest it be removed . It creates ( is creating ? ) potential pressure on Paul . Permies is now so big I think this rule is unrealistic . There are lots of knowlegable folks in this community to answer problems . Thats the point . All it does is potentially put pressure on Paul and raise unrealistic expectations for posters like the OP above.

David

David Livingston wrote:
Looking at your link it appears to have been written many years ago I would suggest it be removed . It creates ( is creating ? ) potential pressure on Paul . Permies is now so big I think this rule is unrealistic . There are lots of knowlegable folks in this community to answer problems . Thats the point . All it does is potentially put pressure on Paul and raise unrealistic expectations for posters like the OP above.

David

That link is to richsoil, not permies.com, which means it's Paul's personal territory. I can't touch it! I can suggest stuff to Paul, but I have no control over him.

I've posted a playlist of two days of lectures by Elaine Ingham in the original thread that the 48 hour rule was invoked for. I haven't watched them all so don't feel qualifed to answer, but I'm sure the answers will be found in there. Maybe someone else can rise to the occasion?

Burra : Thank you, You said much in very few words, yes perhaps we should make an exception to the exception and wait on Paul W.to tell us W.W.P.D. !
Big AL

It seems to me that the 48 hour rule is best kept to things that only Paul could answer that are time sensitive issues. Topics like soil biology can be covered by many members of our community.

If Paul can't (or does not want) to answer this that is just fine. I know he is very busy. Thanks for posting those videos!

The reason I posted the 48 hour comment is that Paul is the big promoter of hugelkulture. And if Steve Solomon is right, all we permies will become weak and sickly from so much potassium. In other words, it is a challenge to his whole view of permaculture. (I think.) But I have got lots of good response from other people, so it is not necessary.

Once he is back, maybe he should decide if the 48 hour rule is still in operation.

And yes, what will happen to all this if he drops out for some reason?

I was under the impression that the rule existed to help ensure that every came away satisfied. Paul himself is not some fount of perfect knowledge, there are other people on here who are specialists in different area and are as well, if not better, able to answer questions than Paul. I'm in no way bashing Paul here - but we have experts in mycorhizal fungi for example who really know their stuff. There is no need to get Paul's input on a thread that has been adequately answered.

For threads that are inadequately answered a shout out could draw in more thoughts. Paul's personal thoughts are not necessarily promised.

Michael Cox wrote:I was under the impression that the rule existed to help ensure that every came away satisfied. Paul himself is not some fount of perfect knowledge, there are other people on here who are specialists in different area and are as well, if not better, able to answer questions than Paul. I'm in no way bashing Paul here - but we have experts in mycorhizal fungi for example who really know their stuff. There is no need to get Paul's input on a thread that has been adequately answered.

For threads that are inadequately answered a shout out could draw in more thoughts. Paul's personal thoughts are not necessarily promised.

and everyone is welcome to check out the 'zero replies' list at the top on the right..........there might just be something there in anyones area of expertise:)
Also you can add a flag or two if you have apples to do so or give your post a 'bump' in a reply to get it back at the top of the forums.

I think what we've been offering is an excellent answer within 48 hours. I think that most of the time that excellent answer will come from not me.I am also willing to offer my answer. Although there is no guarantee that that will be an excellent answer.

I am away from my property computer right now which would have a proper keyboard. But I did try to put in a bit of an answer. I hope it helps for now. Maybe somebody can supply links for my answer since I'm away from my computer.

posting in the tinkering form is the right thing to do when a person wants to invoke the 48 hour rule. And I think that this thread is proof that this system works. There are lots of excellent responses to this thread before I even knew this thread existed.

Awesome!

Paul is a generalist and very good at it. I am also a generalist but I have points of focus that I'm an expert at, just as Paul has his expert focal points. The 48 hour rule (so awesome) shouldn't require Paul to reply, rather it flags the post so anyone of expertise can chime in and help out. You'll get some good answers and some poor ones. We can't expect Paul to answer every post, hell I can't even read every post I'm interested in and I spend way too much time on this site.

- If I am in error here, correct me, My understanding was if the original poster did not get a response, or thought that the responses given did not cover the topic,
or if the original poster thought that he answers offered might be wrong or mostly incomplete! They could invoke the 48 hr rule !

When this happened paul was responsible to review the questions history and decide if the question had received one or more good answers and needed no further
response OR to try and find a 'good' answer if the question was not answered /resolved !

The list of posts that presently receive no answers are very instructive, some are informational only needing no response, some are to short without specific location
and climate data and unanswerable

And some are too specific,with a good answer for one location/event/problem being a wrong answer in most other locations -or to general!

Some are based on a miss-understanding or miss-reading of an esoteric point, This may mean that the correct information must come from a Third party unknown to
Paul W., with the possible increase in miss-information as minutia is passed from 1st hand to 2nd hand and even further !

Short answer !If Paul W. Says the topic has received a good answer, then That Answer can ether be accepted, or another source must be invoked !

For the Good of The Craft ! Big AL !

I think it is mostly up to the person that invokes the 48 hour rule. Does that person believe that they received an excellent answer?

The answer I gave was while I was far away from a computer, so it was hard to type. But maybe I hit the nail on the head with my short answer and all is well. Maybe not.

And, as Rick pointed out: I am by no means the ultimate expert in everything that is discussed here. In fact, for any expertise I have, I think I can only present my school of thought. And even for my school of thought there are surely people that know far more than I do.

I like that the 48 hour rule is mostly for "an excellent answer" as opposed to "an answer from paul." I don't mind giving it a shot - but I think that for any question there are people that know more than me. At the same time, I think for 95% of the questions, I think that somebody that has listened to all of the podcasts would be able to easily fill in for me.