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Casie Becker wrote:
I don't know about in Europe, but the US a lot of landscaping plants are edible and most people don't know it. Landscaping plants tend to be nearly indestructible and all but invisible to most people. The more of these you grow, or encourage your neighbors to grow, the better.
John Elliott wrote: for many of the "Zombie Horde", an unfamiliar food plant is one that is still in the ground, as opposed to laying in a display at the supermarket (or better yet, in a microwavable box in the freezer section).
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Tyler Ludens wrote:Another thought about resilience in food forests - make the plot "lumpy" so plants are growing in many different microclimates. So, some flat areas, some raised areas, some sunken, some sunny, some shaded, etc.
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Jan White wrote:I don't like the idea of protecting my food from the "zombie hordes." Sepp Holzer talks about planting enough so the birds, squirrels, etc. can all take their share and there's still enough for you. Well, I want to add zombie hordes to that list. A huge part of the reason I want to grow food is to provide for my community - donating crops to food banks, seeds to community gardens, and, if and when it comes to it, helping in times of scarcity. I'm not idealistic enough to think everyone's going to play nice and share when they start getting hungry, but I;m not going to horde food while other people starve either. That's one of the reasons I like guerrilla gardening so much. Plant perennial food wherever you can for other people to take advantage of. I like Casie's reminder about the edible landscaping plants too.
Tristan Vitali wrote:I agree but, some (many? few?) are not going to be people you want knowing how valuable a resource that little plot of trees really is. Some will inevitably be the type of people who will not only harvest a system into oblivion but may do so while pointing a shotgun at you (or holding a knife to your spouse's throat). Not all of them, mind you, but some of them, certainly. Idealistically, we'd all be as smart as those squirrels and birds, never taking more than the system can provide and moving on when scarcity starts to set in, but we, as a culture, are prone to the "Black Friday" syndrome...steal, beat and lie your way to abundance at the expense of all else. If you feel that you have to kill to feed your children, some just wont think twice and that's where the danger lies.
Joseph Lofthouse wrote:So I don't worry much about the zombie horde. I think that for the most part, they wouldn't recognize a food plant if it was right in front of them, and they wouldn't have the ambition to pick it even if they did.
But just in case, I grow about 55 species of food plants in my garden: spring pulses. summer pulses. fall pulses. So that there would always be something to be harvested any particular week of the growing season. I guarantee that nobody is going to come into the garden and steal all of the sunroot weeds. (Wish they would). I plant in the wildlands. I plant in the lawn. I plant edible landscaping plants. I plant trees. Food plants everywhere.
Jan White wrote:
I also can't help but think that the kind of person who hoards and looks after only their own is also the kind of person who would end up taking from others when their luck ran out. They've already shown a lack of empathy by not helping others when they had enough to give, and that would only get worse if they were desperate. So yeah - not going there. We're going to have to disagree on this one I suppose.
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patrick canidae wrote:Maybe the better question is, "How can I plant perennial food sources all over the nearest town to me ?" so that doesn't happen.
R Ranson wrote:
That's not the interesting bit. The interesting bit is looking at how they coped. It took about two generations to really get the hang of the new weather... what with all the starvation and plague and such... but they did find ways to manage and trive. We can learn a lot from them.
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I'll try this again.Neil Layton wrote:
The major texts on Permaculture and forest garden design do talk about climate as a question to be considered when designing our gardens, but rarely talk in detail about climate change, so I thought I'd start a thread to discuss how we make our forest gardens more climate disruption resistant, through things like better design for flood, drought and other extreme events, and the questions of plant breeding (including the advantages of growing more resistant strains through deliberate neglect). How do you make your food forest resistant to the depredations of hungry people? What else haven't I thought about?
"Permaculture is a philosophy of working with, rather than against nature; of protracted & thoughtful observation rather than protracted & thoughtless labour; & of looking at plants & animals in all their functions, rather than treating any area as a single-product system."-Bill Mollison
patrick canidae wrote:Maybe the better question is, "How can I plant perennial food sources all over the nearest town to me ?" so that doesn't happen.
How do you become the John Chapman of your region? I imagine the left over inventory from some home and garden centers, some short, regular volunteer sessions at some local town properties, and a pitch to the parks and rec department you could volunteer at would get quite a bit done.
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