chip sanft wrote:What permacultural experience or advice do people have for deterring wandering domestic cats from coming into the garden?
I'd like to learn about non-harming ways to discourage cats from coming into our garden area and catching birds, snakes, skinks, etc. Those little predators help keep the pests down and the more, the merrier, as far as I'm concerned. "More snakes, more birds, more skinks" is my motto. "A skink on every rock" would be a political platform I'd vote for, simply because slugs annoy me, as do many beetles, some moths, and most caterpillars.
I'm not anti-cat. I am not interested in any way harming cats. Educating the humans involved is not practicable in all cases -- it's not in this one (except for educating myself). And getting the relevant authorities involved would mean live-trapping the cats and sending them to the pound. I don't want to do that either (see "not interested in any way harming cats" above). Our little dog is noisy enough for three. Cats dislike her. But she's not outside all the time.
Permaculture methods must offer some things that will deter cats. Anti-catnip? Counter-felid fengshui? Is this yet another problem that the right kind of compost can make go away???
I would prefer this not become a thread about the question of whether cats are harmful etc. Everyone knows some cats kill things when they're out and about. Not all cats kill and not all the time, but still. Some people don't mind that killing, some do. Fair enough. It's a big internet and there's space for many viewpoints. I'm interested in practical, practicable, non-harmful things I can do.
Amy Arnett wrote:It's a common held belief in Japan that plastic bottles filled with water will deter cats.
D Nikolls wrote:I think you've already got the ideal solution; a dog. You just don't have *enough* of the solution! I would suggest you apply further solution until the problem is reduced to an acceptable level, or the solution becomes more of a problem than the problem.
(That's a permaculture thing, right? 'Sometimes the solution is the problem'?)
I keep my cat in a fenced yard for his own safety; he was previously an indoor cat and I'm afraid of him getting hit by a car, as he's absolutely fearless well past the bounds of common sense. To prevent him getting past the fence, I put the posts in at an angle, and used heavy duty black plastic deer fencing, loosely attached with an inward bent lower curtain laid on the ground and weighted down. It's too tall to jump, and while I'm sure he could climb a taut vertical fence, going up a sagging overhang is beyond him...
It doesn't make for a pretty fence, but it's worked for several months so far.