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Sometimes I can't see replies to the threads.  In this case, the thread I started in fences about helping me design a living fence.  It shows one reply, and if I look at "my posts", it shows there was a reply from Tyler, but I can't see it.  I cleared my cache, refreshed my screen, trying going to the thread thru the "my posts" and I still can't see the reply.
 
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And just after I posted this, it showed up.  Weird lag...
 
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Sometimes you can't see posts because they're under moderation. So it could be someone replied, but a moderator said, "Hey can you fix something in this post?" and until the post is fixed up, you won't see the reply. I have no idea if that's what happened in your instance, but it is something to be aware of in the future is a reply isn't visible.
 
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Hi.  This happened in the past few months, yesterday and again, just now.  I clicked on a thread ((straw vs hay to cover swales ?? ) which said that Tyler Ludens was the last person to post, but when I read the whole thread (which only had a few posts) Tyler's post was not there.  However, when I experimentally tried to add a post myself, Tyler's post magically appeared.  Then I went back to see if had appeared there without posting, and it was still not present.  Twilight Zone?  Or new website design quirk?
 
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Tyler's post is there now, Paul.  but here's the link
 
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I've been having the same thing (I think).  I just clicked on the Lofthouse Garden Photos link which says it had a reply 11 hours ago.  When I go in there the last reply was 2 days ago.
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I see it happen fairly often. There are two nonsystem errors that cause it. One is if a post has been suspended until a moderator makes a determination, or it's edited. Another one is if someone posts and then realizes they didn't say exactly what the meant to and so are busy editing the post. If you look at that one, there's an edit on Tyler's last post.
 
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I think I phrased part of that poorly. There are two things that cause it regularly that aren't errors in the system.
 
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I think this is the same problem I posted about yesterday when a reply from Tyler didn't show up in my post "Help me design my living fence".  Tyler's post showed up later, but it hadn't been edited, and I don't think anything in it could have been construed as something that needed to be corrected.
 
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So I think you are saying that something weird happens, and then it becomes fine by itself?  So the system is healing itself?

And before you think you're crazy, I think we have had this problem for five years or so.   I know that about a year ago I went through a list of about 200 active things for the forums and that one came up as one of the oldest.   It has been marked as a low priority because it seems to repair itself.  So it could be some sort of caching delay.  

How often do you think it happens?
 
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It's hard to say how often, Paul.  Sometimes I'm on here a lot, and I can't say that it happens a great deal of the time.  It's fairly rare?... if that means anything... basically a relative term to how I feel about it. I can't give you numbers.  I haven't been on here that much lately, but it happened a couple times.  That may be coincidental, or it may mean that it happens more times then I care to notice.
 
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There are several things that can happen:


1)  a spammer posts, and then we remove the spam.

1.1)  the post was removed because somebody wasn't nice.

2)  the probation scenario described above

3)  the innards of the system are trying to catch up to other parts of the system

4)  a post was removed for whatever reason and later it got put back for some other reason

5)  the bug that has been documented for five years.    I think that we are all hoping that as we continue to make lots of other changes, the bug might go away on its own.

6)  maybe something else has happened and we should figure it out, but if everything seems to be okay by the time we look at it, it seems hard to give it a high priority.

 
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Yeah... it's not a huge concern Paul.  That's why I didn't bring it up before.  I was just in that sort of mood today, that I figured I'd see if perhaps I needed a stiff drink or some neurotransmitter re-adjustment... or if i should perhaps luck out to find out that it wasn't my twisted reality playing tricks on me.
 
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I agree that it isn't a big issue.  It's the biggest "bug" that I see with the site so that's why I jumped onto Roberto's thread.  It is minor and I probably notice it a couple times a week.  The glitch with the "Photos of Joseph Lofthouse's Garden" thread is still there now that I click on it again.  So one of the things listed above must still be churning on this particular thread.
 
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Mike Jay wrote:The glitch with the "Photos of Joseph Lofthouse's Garden" thread is still there now that I click on it again.  So one of the things listed above must still be churning on this particular thread.



That one's not a glitch.  That was spam that I removed soon after it arrived.  
 
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Burra Maluca wrote:That one's not a glitch.  That was spam that I removed soon after it arrived.  



The glitch is that the forum indexes are still telling us about a spam post which has been deleted. I could fix it by making a post to the thread, but I've already made so many posts to it. Don't know what else to write about...
 
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Joseph Lofthouse wrote:

Burra Maluca wrote:That one's not a glitch.  That was spam that I removed soon after it arrived.  



The glitch is that the forum indexes are still telling us about a spam post which has been deleted. I could fix it by making a post to the thread, but I've already made so many posts to it. Don't know what else to write about...



Gotcha, so a spam post was removed but it still lives on as a time stamp.  My curiosity has been satisfied...  Thanks to the moderators for making Permies so wonderful!
 
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I feel strongly that if a brand new user posts a question, then it should appear instantly and hopefully awesome people will welcome the noob and give them a great response right away.   Unfortunately, this also opens us up to getting a lot of spam.

Have I ever mentioned that there was once a time when we would get 30,000 spams per day?

 
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Holy Crappola!   what the hell did you do about 30,000 spams A DAY ?  ?  ?  I'd have a mental breakdown in your position, Paul!  
 
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Roberto pokachinni wrote:Holy Crappola!   what the hell did you do about 30,000 spams A DAY ?  ?  ?  I'd have a mental breakdown in your position, Paul!  



We changed software.  Now, with this software, a heavily modified jforum, we add anti spam features all the time.  We still have some stuff to do to deal with spam, but   ....  at the top of it all ... we want real users to have a lovely experience with their very first post.

 
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