Cindy Fox wrote:Are you still using clickbank @Paul Wheaton?
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Sonja Draven wrote:Paul, do you have "extra" hard back copies of the book that you could sell, over priced? I ask because I still have ebook codes from the fundraiser that I haven't used because it turned out that everyone wanted hard copies. So I'm now out of hard copies. I would be interested in buying some for $100 or 150... Guessing maybe others are too, if you've got boxes in your basement so to speak.
I'd purchase some of the online stuff but with my data cap, I haven't been able to watch everything I already received. :(
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Catherine Windrose wrote:Can the boot and ant fees I paid last year be used as a donation for the book? Then there would only be 8k. And maybe my arm would be better off for waiting a little longer.
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Paul Douglas Stevens wrote:An established book publicist has connections with media people, book reviewers and industry folks. If they get your book in front of two or three reviewers in major media, the readers of the reviews could number in the millions. You have a quirky story with a great hook...save the world by doing stuff in your backyard. With all the concern about any number of environmental and social issues, exposure of the book and it's story should generate huge sales.
At the price point you are selling it on Amazon for, you only need to boost sales by 1800 copies to break even. By the way, I question the category that you have your book listed under. Conservation doesn't begin to describe it. "Gaia's Garden: A Guide to Home-Scale Permaculture," which would seem to be something close to your book topic, is listed as #1 in "organic." You can select at least two categories to list your book under. Picking the correct categories will get your book in front of the right people.
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Cara Campbell wrote:Amazon is a pretty evil corporation and no matter how profitable an alliance might be, I think it more in keeping with permaculture values to steer clear (also of Google & FaceBook).
Paul, you mentioned not knowing how to find/vet a publicist. There are other, similar books out there; what about contacting some of the authors to see if they used a publicist? I'd think they possibly could be helpful
Books I think would have similar readers as yours:
Extreme Simplicity and The Self-Sufficient Home both by Christopher Nyerges
The Urban Homestead by Kelly Coyne and Erik Knutzen
Also David the Good's Florida Food Forest, Compost Everything and his Florida Vegetable Growing books seem to have sold quite a bit. He's pretty approachable and would probably have some good ideas.
And what about The Humanure Handbook?
Would Chelsea Green Publishers maybe have some suggestions?
Just a few things that came to me. If not helpful, I understand. Good luck. I enjoyed the book. It really made me rethink composting!
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Sonja Draven wrote:Paul, do you have "extra" hard back copies of the book that you could sell, over priced? I ask because I still have ebook codes from the fundraiser that I haven't used because it turned out that everyone wanted hard copies. So I'm now out of hard copies. I would be interested in buying some for $100 or 150... Guessing maybe others are too, if you've got boxes in your basement so to speak.
I'd purchase some of the online stuff but with my data cap, I haven't been able to watch everything I already received. :(
No hardback copies. I still have the paperback copies.
I do have a few signed copies - signed by shawn and i (complete with the bit of silly that only those that bought a signed copy know about).
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Sonja Draven wrote:Is it easier for you if I just buy books through Amazon for the amount I can afford to give to this cause?
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paul wheaton wrote:
Sonja Draven wrote:Is it easier for you if I just buy books through Amazon for the amount I can afford to give to this cause?
To raise funds for the publicist, it would need to be purchased here: https://permies.com/bwb
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Sonja Draven wrote:Thanks! Twelve books ordered.
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paul wheaton wrote:
Sonja Draven wrote:Thanks! Twelve books ordered.
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paul wheaton wrote:Luke, I'm not quite sure what you are suggesting.
I think going with a publicist is the smart way to go - it is the thing to do at this point.
Earlier in this thread somebody gave me the address of jeff bezos and I thought: he has the printing and distribution ... He could even print up 10 million copies and slip them into 10 million other book orders. And another 10 million into 10 million kindle orders. At such quantity, I would be perfectly comfortable to be paid zero.
So for all the to work out, I would like to get the point that money goes in, and money comes out and it can propel itself. So the money goes to a publicist, that results in sales which brings money in which can be used for more printing and more publicist.
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Luke Simon wrote:Of course, Paul. It sounds like the publicist would move enough books that the $9000 would be no problem -after you've paid the publicist. I've got $9000 I'm offering to loan you so you can hire the publicist and get the books moving. Just offering.
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I think that the thing I would need is to hire somebody to hire a good publicist.
Alicia Bayer wrote:You may also want to look into offering your book for review at NetGalley, where librarians, bloggers, booksellers and other reviewers access ARCs (advanced reader copies) for free in exchange for reviewing them on the site and on sites like book blogs, Goodreads and Amazon. That's also how many librarians and booksellers find out about new titles to order. NetGalley has become a rather important way of promoting books in today's market. It costs more money than I'm willing to pay ($400 or $500 maybe?) but at the scale you're looking to sell at, it could be a good move. That's probably one of the routes your publicist is planning on going.
I have never used a publicist or agent and have only used word of mouth and this sort of thing but I have sold quite a few books (my elderberry book is by far the best seller, though my acorn foraging book and nature study books also do fairly well). Part of that also is because I do a lot to help people online for free with my free nature magazine, foraging help, blogs, etc. and so people tend to want to support me.
You have that going in spades, which can really help. I realize you are looking for much bigger numbers of sales than my little books, but I hope that's some help. I would be happy to create a social media post like mine for you at no charge if you want to email me and give me a basic outline of what you'd want on it. I believe strongly in helping others for free, which is probably why I am not the type to hire a publicist and balk at anybody charging you that much. :) It may be a smart move, but I wouldn't count out word of mouth and karma in helping to bring good sales your way at much less cost.
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Pavel Mikoloski wrote:Hi Paul:
I saw your posting about publicity for your book. I'm a book publicist and would love to talk to you about it.
Let me know if you'd like to chat.
My name is Paul, too.
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Leigh Tate wrote:Published a review on my blog this morning, 5 Acres & A Dream The Blog Book Review: Building a Better World in Your Backyard.
Responses are just coming in and folks are interested. Every little bit helps!
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paul wheaton wrote:I see the amazon affiliate link. You do know that my book (and all my stuff) sports a 50% affiliate fee here, right?
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After paypal started helping themselves to my bank account...
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Leigh Tate wrote:Wow, Paul, sure! What do you need me to do to become an affiliate?
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