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Has anyone thought about selling posters of the Wheaton Eco Scale?  Might be a neat way to make some coin for the empire.

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I think it is an excellent idea!

I like the idea that there could be a place that makes posters.   We submit the image and the site sells the posters.   And somehow we get a cut.  I suppose we might get something like $3 per poster.  

Do you know of such a site?

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I don't know of a site but I just sent a note off to AllPosters.com to see how they do business.  I'll let you know what I hear.

If anyone else knows a way to take content and outsource the manufacture/selling/shipping/ordering, please chime in.

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I'm going to try this with Gooten and see if I can finangle this into working. I'm working on getting the image size correct for submitting for creation.

Making a poster of this is starting to get weird. Considering the dimensions of the poster, it would be about half a foot in width and four feet long.

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I could not get it to work with Gooten, because I could not make custom dimension ratios.

I have found that these two websites are possibilities for printing while maintaining the pixel ratio of the Wheaton Eco Scale image.

To order prints in the size of 5.85 inches by 49.73 inches from Poster Printshop would cost $15 to print, and the price would need to be raised so there is some room for profit and incentive to do this. So, if I ordered from here, I might sell these at $30 a pop.

Would anyone want to pay that?

I could also order the posters from Scalable Press in the size of 24 inches by 204 inches for the cost of $36. Again, to make an incentive to do this, these posters would probably be like $60 a pop.

I personally think that's a lot of money I could save or spend for a better use. But would anyone actually pay that much for just a poster?

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Dave Burton wrote:
I could also order the posters from Scalable Press in the size of 24 inches by 204 inches for the cost of $36. Again, to make an incentive to do this, these posters would probably be like $60 a pop.



I think it's very hard to hang and read a vertical poster of 204 inches!
 
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Haha! Yeah... I kinda thought the second option with Scalable Press was a little impractical.

I didn't want the wonderful artwork to get damaged by changing the ratio of width to height, so, the 5.85 inches by 49.73 inches is the best option I have found at the moment.

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Could the image be massaged to have levels 1-4 on the left side and 5-10 on the right?  So it's twice as wide and half as tall?  Not sure if that would cost less...  I'm thinking $15-20 is a good price point.

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I've had mixed success with Vistaprint.

Using a local printer usually gives me better value and quality control when printing posters for work.

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Mike Jay wrote:Could the image be massaged to have levels 1-4 on the left side and 5-10 on the right?  So it's twice as wide and half as tall?  Not sure if that would cost less...  I'm thinking $15-20 is a good price point.



Good suggestion, Mike! Thank you! I'll try doing this.

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I did a very basic fast version just to get something out there. I split it mostly exactly in half. It is now 2000 pixels by 4250 pixels.
I'll check what platforms and costs this version might be.
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I wonder who prints this Appalachian Trail poster:


It's 9.5" x 48" and is sold for $3.50 at this site.  
I'm guessing they're so inexpensive because they're mass produced?

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Is there a way to send an attachment for someone to print on their own? Like put in a sheet of 8.5 x 11 glossy photo paper in and hit print?

Can that be protected to where only people that pay can print it?

Should it be free? No coin but hitting more people(saving the world...)

Could be candy on future kickstarters. Or a stretch goal?

Just throwing out ideas. Maybe one hits a bullseye

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With the adjustment of the poster dimensions to 2000 by 4250 pixels, it will now be accepted by Gooten. There will be a fair bit of whitespace on either side, because printing with them is for mass-production and custom sizes is not what they do. The posters that I have now working on Gooten. In my product hub on Gooten, these are now official products. The bare cost of printing these at 11.7x16.5 inches and  16.5x23.4 inches is $4.80 and $6.00 respectively, so I would sell these at like $6.80 and $8.00, so that I make a little profit. I'm going to try to get an Etsy shop setup soon so that these can start being sold.
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So that includes $3 for the empire at that price?  Impressive!

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Ummm, about that.... I just set this thing up real fast whiz-bang speed! The profit margin I set for both of them is $2.00. I have absolutely no clue how any profit from this will get diverted to the empire. Or how much of the profit would be requested for sharing with the empire.

I would be happy to split the $2.00 profit with the empire if that is wanted, because I know I didn't do much work. At most, this was a maybe 4 to 6-hour project on my end to turn the online graphic into a poster and make it a sell-able product.

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Here is my official word on this:

Dave, you get the entire $2.  

If you get something like $500 at some point (which I doubt) maybe use some of it to support one of my kickstarters or buy pie or do my patreon stuff or something.  

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Thank you, Paul! Yeah, I have no idea how many people would buy it. If it does make that much money, I'll use it to support the empire.

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So, I'm getting a production issue problem. They (Gooten) want the image rescaled to fit their size of 2475x3510 exactly, because they don't like the whiespace on the sides. I am asking to see if we can pritn as is and leave it alone. If they won't let it be left alone, I am thinking I could fill the whitespace with various artwork that's all about permies.
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For the time being, I have closed my Etsy shop, since I had only one item to sell. I found out that at the end of the entire process, somehow through things I do not yet understand the $2 profit margin I set winds up netting me only $0.08. I have left the Wheaton Eco Scale Poster in Gooten, so the posters can easily be revived again whenever.

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