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Paul and I are working on section titles for our book and we want your feedback! Here is the latest table of contents for Part 2 of our book:

Part 2: General Strategies
Chapter 2.1: The Wheaton Eco Scale
Chapter 2.2: Moving Way Beyond Recycling
   Section 2.2.1: Attack of the Pizza Box
   Section 2.2.2: Recycling 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0
Chapter 2.3: Vote with Your Wallet
Chapter 2.4: Radically Deviant Financial Strategies
   Section 2.4.1: The Story of Gert: A Millionaire Life Without a Million Dollars
   Section 2.4.2: Owning a Home Without Grovelling to a Bank
   Section 2.4.3: Early Retirement Extreme
   Section 2.4.4: Give a Gift to Your Future Self with Passive Income Streams
   Section 2.4.5: The BEER Plan
   Section 2.4.6: A Clever Recipe for More Luxuriant Living at Half the Cost
Chapter 2.5: Organic vs Local
Chapter 2.6: Vegan vs Omni vs Junk Food
   Section 2.6.1: VORP - Expanding Our Vocabulary to Value Garden Food over Diet Cola
   Section 2.6.2: When a Vegan Diet Has a Lower Carbon Footprint.  And When It Doesn’t.
   Section 2.6.3: GAT:  Government-Mandated Acceptable Levels of Toxicity

We're looking specifically at Section 2.6.1: VORP - Expanding Our Vocabulary to Value Garden Food over Diet Cola. Please give your feedback by answering this spiffy apple poll!

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My response is: "VORP? What's that? Maybe one day I'll find out, but it makes no difference as to whether or not I'll buy the book."

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Well whichever section is about the more extreme off-grid living in permaculture I personally would call it
"going full caveman" lol
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:My response is: "VORP? What's that? Maybe one day I'll find out, but it makes no difference as to whether or not I'll buy the book."



Option added!

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My response is:
VORP - sounds like a government project. All abbreviations sound like government projects to me, so please, VORP, don't take it personally

Edit: I must add I don't have anything against government projects, it's just that they're often dull-sounding even though they do accomplish good things often times.

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Is VORP an acronym?
 
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Yes it is! A shiny new acronym that we came up with to describe food that is Virgin and Organic and grown in Rich soil as part of a Polyculture in a permaculture system.

(I think that sentence sounded better the way it was written in the book but I'm between tasks so you'll have to deal with this less polished version for now.)

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Shawn Klassen-Koop wrote:Yes it is! A shiny new acronym that we came up with to describe food that is Virgin and Organic and grown in Rich soil as part of a Polyculture in a permaculture system.

(I think that sentence sounded better the way it was written in the book but I'm between tasks so you'll have to deal with this less polished version for now.)



Virgin Organic Rich (soil) Polyculture.

Got it. Thanks, Shawn!
 
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I find it difficult to vote, because it's about what I think 'people' will think of it. I know only my own thoughts ... I'm interested in Permaculture, so I'd buy it anyway.

"Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them" (Luke 6:31)

 
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It is very easy to end up speaking in acronyms when we try to get across complex concepts that we work with all the time. I hit this problem all the time as a teacher, especially when working with students for brief periods. Even as someone who has listened to hundreds of Paul’s podcasts, I was half way thru the PEP one and still missing stuff he was saying as I was trying to work out the acronym in my head. I am also drowning in a sea of acronyms at work, so maybe he’s mentioned it enough that most people who aren’t cerebrally saturated with them would remember PEP, or VORP, but if the book is for the beginner it would help to spell it out. One way to help overcome acronym illiteracy would be to make sure each component part is explained in the prior sections in such a way as to make their integration seem the obvious next step. In the table of contents this would be harder. I am bad at simplifying things myself, I always over complicate, so maybe I need to stop typing now!

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Ben Zumeta wrote:I am also drowning in a sea of acronyms at work, so maybe he’s mentioned it enough that most people who aren’t cerebrally saturated with them would remember PEP, or VORP, but if the book is for the beginner it would help to spell it out. One way to help overcome acronym illiteracy would be to make sure each component part is explained in the prior sections in such a way as to make their integration seem the obvious next step.  



That's my situation too, drowning in a sea of acronyms at work.

Could there be a page somewhere where it's convenient to find, where all acronyms are explained?
I'd also love it if on that same page there were some basic measurement conversions there, for the measures used in the book. Like 1 mile = 1.6 km, 1 pound = 0.453 kg, 1 acre = 0.4 hectares, 1 gallon = 3.8 liters.

P.S. I'm going to buy the book anyway, no amount of acronyms will deter me. I gotta have that book!

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I would like to see you keep the title short, or simple, and expand on VORP in the first paragraph.  It's not going to mean much until it's explained in detail.  I would cut the Title in half, like:
Valuing Garden Food Over Diet Cola

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Sentence case is much easier to read, even for titles!
 
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“Virgin Organic Rich (soil) Polyculture“

I’d spell it out like that

This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory

 
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I should have read the thread before checking google! I couldnt figure out what "victom offender reconciliation program" or "value over replacement player" had to do with permies. 🙄  I will be interest to see how it is phrased in the book as it seems a little long.

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I think Value Over Replacement Permie would be a brutal but efficient way to evaluate interns at an intentional community.

This is all just my opinion based on a flawed memory

 
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Interesting. Seems so far like it doesn't make a difference to most people.

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Shawn Klassen-Koop wrote:Interesting. Seems so far like it doesn't make a difference to most people.



Yeah, because it doesn't mean anything to anyone! You just made it up!!

The stuff after the "VORP-" is saying what you mean to say...

...and while we're at it.. GAT? is that already a thing? a serious question.
Do these acronyms do any good to advance the conversation?

Take the BEER Plan. It is catchy, memorable, pronouncable even!, and something that might be a conversation starter... "oh yeah, well, I'm on the BEER plan... what's the BEER plan, let me tell you..."

VORP and GAT are going to have folks asking "Are you're okay?", "Do you ant some water?"

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Acronyms are esoteric by their very nature. I thought that’s why this forum discouraged their use.

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Last vote in apple poll was on January 18, 2019

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