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Paul wants help coming up with a different name for rocket mass heaters

 
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Happened on this thread while looking for another - and Burra mentioned it to me earlier.  

There's a regulatory point about getting "Masonry" into the name, in some jurisdictions "Masonry stove" is known and permitted which can make things like planning and insurance easier.

If you want to avoid "Rocket" because rockets are scary, then I feel life would be easier the hive mind comes up with
"[something beginning with R] Masonry Heater" and then it can still be referred to as RMH which avoids the problem of having to repeatedly explain a new abbreviation.
 
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Very well stated Cristobal;
The word Rocket is forever attached in one way or another.
Unfortunately, that is the exact word the insurance company has highlighted in RED!
A Rocket What heater??? Does it burn wood??? DENIED!!!
When we say, we want to build a Masonry stove, they say, OH, ok, here are the regulations...  

My Montana Masonry Heater Store will always say...  aka) Rocket Mass Heater.

Building and showcasing batchboxes in elegant brick bells or skinned with granite or soapstone is a surefire way to attract attention.
Our problem, is few experienced builders are willing to travel.
Traditional Batchboxes can be built by a novice with some guidance and perhaps with purchasing ready-made parts and supplies from your convenient Montana Masonry store!
The newest core Shorty requires a special airframe and some large cast slabs, but a novice who has access to metalworking friends or equipment can also build this core.
Besides custom fitting the bricks around the core, the Brick containment (bell) is straightforward enough. Again a novice can do this...

We need novices with the self-confidence to step up and start building.
If they start young and learn to do only quality work,
The more showcase builds, the more demand to create more.




 
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I concur that if a re-branding is needed (for high-priced avocado toast-eating suburbanites and insurance agents - not mutually exclusive categories!), keeping "masonry heater" will be helpful.

"Masonry heaters" do have fairly permissive code requirements, compared to a sheet steel or cast iron box stove, in most jurisdictions.

I'd lobby for something along the lines of "high efficiency masonry heater", "clean combustion masonry heater", or similar.  But, that's not very catchy.

As an engineering/technical type, "rocket" is just fine with me.  But, I suppose it must conjure up launch pad fireballs of hypergolic fuels or weapons of war for some folks, especially in the current climate of excessive safetyism and "silence is violence" and more emphasis on the words people use (which were perfectly acceptable at a polite company dinner party as recently as two years ago, but will now get you properly shunned!), rather than the actions they take.  But I digress...

Every once in a while, some name for a product or service strikes me as truly inspired.  Most new product names fall flat for me.  I tend to like old British product names, which often incorporated some form or fragment of a Latin or Greek root descriptive of the function.  But, as I said, I tend to be more technically oriented, despite my evident congenital logorrhea.  For me, nifty names are secondary, even though I am all about words in service of a purpose.

OK, back to lurk mode!
 
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I tried to think up catchy words starting with 'r' using the thesaursus, but they were all a bit blah ....refined, rustic, restful, reverbing...definitely need more 'efficient burn' in the name to make it mean something.
It's also difficult to come up with a phrase acronym that covers all things rocket mass heater, that isn't 'rocket mass heater'. You could come up with meaningful words for cob bench (like cob bench) and masonry bell. I feel it is the burn bit that ought to be emphasised in the RMH  phrase to replace 'rocket' and still mean 'clean efficient burn' not just a letter for the sake of it.
Still thinking.....
 
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Austin Shackles wrote:...
If you want to avoid "Rocket" because rockets are scary, then I feel life would be easier the hive mind comes up with
"[something beginning with R] Masonry Heater" and then it can still be referred to as RMH which avoids the problem of having to repeatedly explain a new abbreviation.


Keeping the RMH abbreviation is valuable, so here are a couple of possibilities:
  • Radiant Masonry Heater
  • Re-burning Masonry Heater

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    I thought "Radiant" was a good idea, but all masonry heaters are radiant, so that is not any kind of real differentiation. "Reburning" is not totally unique to RMHs, but close enough and captures a critical feature of all RMHs.
     
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    The WAH.
    The Warm Ass Heater.
    The WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
     
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    Howzabout


    Triple Burn Masonry Heater

    ??

    Because it has the insulated space to get to temps over 1300, it also burns the smoke and creosote.

     
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    (1) SNORT.  Call them CORDLESS STOVES. After all, they use fewer cords of wood, if any at all.



    (2) Something to do with generations:

    (2.1)  First generation was some combustibles laying on the ground.
    (2.2) Second generation had rocks around the combustibles, to contain the fire (too many cave fires from out of control attempts to heat caves (don't you hate combustible dirt?)).
    (2.3) Third generation had more rocks, and the value of chimneys were discovered (better draft, exhaust).
    (2.4) Fourth generation was fire places (all out with the rock thing, with a bit of mud and grass chinking tossed in?).
    (2.5) Fifth generation was the insert for the fireplace.
    (2.6) Sixth generation had insulated pipe chimneys, so the draft did not cool as quickly, exhausted better, and resulted in fewer cave chimney fires.
    (2.7) Seventh generation stoves had catalytic converters, after a bunch of someone's figured out that smoke was polluting and wasted energy.
    (2. - (2.16) Generations eight through sixteen, which covered Russian stoves, soapstone stoves and so on with their huge or efficient mass, and all manner of other heating methods.
    (2.17) - (2.27) Generations seventeen through generation twenty-seven, starting with the simple rocket heaters, like one might take out on camping trips, to burn leaves, twigs and, if on Everest, snow. Then moving to stoves with longer tunnels, insulated exhaust pipes, heat dumping pipes and mass, to, in the end, be used for heating, cooking and baking.  

    In the not too distant future, my money is on that there will be some new designs that use the [insulated] structure of the building for the mass (piping or tunnels in the walls), adding to the generations.

    I GOT IT - GENAIR!  Oh, wait, that's trademarked (sloppy fit aside).

    I guess octagen suggests less than what has been and is. Variations?  Duodecimal is indicated to be the twelve version.  Vigesimal Generation is the twenty version.  Numerical Representations for something in the twenty-five year generations would be, Roman numeral XXV,  Binary: 11001, Hexadecimal: 19. . . .

    What to do with hot air stoves and names. Balloon stove (hey, it's a rabbit trail thing).









     
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    Regolith   Masonry Heater , Regolith  Masonry Stove , or the more french spelling    Regolithe       ,  regolith being an amalgamation of various of the earths loose materials over a bedrock formed by erosion but then becoming a new consolidation of mixed origin.
     
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