Dale Hodgins wrote:
mick mclaughlin wrote:
The answer to the original question is very damn few are making money growing food through permaculture.
And there you have it. I guess I'm going to have to rethink everything and become a clear cut logger instead. I knew we'd eventually settle this thing.
mick mclaughlin wrote: Maybe i will get lucky and make a buck, while i am at it.
I like hot showers.
I seem to have posted on the wrong spot.... I would post the link but I cannot find it again and now I must leave! It was an article about some tiny farms in the IK, all of which were profitable.
Rufus Laggren wrote:Dale
> avoid the hammer...
Yeah, appreciated that. Thought I'd toss a thought into your tip bowl (tip into the thought bowl???). <G> Your phone sure does have a weird color sense, though. Those are off the tree, right (not the ground)?
Terri - Don't see a link or anything...
Some of you might love this - confirms all kinds of worst fears! <g> It's the first interview but the others might be good too.
Dale Hodgins wrote:My brother has been slowly converting my parent's 7 acre weed patch into a permaculture farm. Most of what he plants are perennials. Jerusalem artichokes cover the most ground, but rhubarb has been his big money crop this year. He did a lot of work in the beginning, but this year, a construction job kept him busy. Almost all of his farm time has been spent harvesting. The rhubarb was sold for $2 per pound in the spring. He got another harvest in mid summer, when the commercial growers got none. It sold for $3 per pound. He tells me there's another $500 to $1000 he could extract, but he's worried about killing it.
The construction job will finish soon. All of these perennial crops are ready to be divided and spread to other areas in the fall. He has thus created a system that allows him to do very little during the growing season. He's a fall and winter farmer and a summer harvester. This allows him to take on better paying work, during the height of the growing season and save all other tasks for periods of unemployment.
He made about $75 per harvest hour on the rhubarb. He'll put in twice as much time digging and spreading it to new areas, under fruit trees. This would mean that he has earned $25 per hour overall. But, next spring he'll have a larger crop. Each season of digging and dividing is an investment that will pay a bit the first year and much more as time goes on.
He has no land cost. My parents eat lots of his produce and they pay less tax now that there is farm income. It's a trade that works for all of them.
Greta Fields wrote:
People seem to have lost the vision of the 1970s homesteaders. --- I think you people talking about making money have lost the vision of "permaculture". You want money culture, sounds like. I paid off my land working, but not so I could make more money. I just wanted land to grow food. My clothes come from used clothing stores, and so do my stoves and furniture, but I feel RICH.
Terri Matthews wrote:I suspect that Diego has finished researching his question and gone away, which is a shame!
To his original question, I would say "What is your product and where is your market"? Permaculture is more a method of production than it is a business in its own right.
When I was going to go into business I was thinking vegetables, blackberries, and honey. Life happened, and I am no longer going into business so instead I am raising asparagus, a few fruit trees, and perrenial flowers. Both would have been permaculture, but what I am doing now does not have a business purpose.
Dan Trello wrote:Maybe in the future we can get away from money, and have such things as time banking instead...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_banking
Dale Hodgins wrote:Welcome back Diego. Have you been watching this thread since the beginning? Oops, he explains that in a previous post.
I made some more indirect farm income yesterday. Harvested enough leafy stuff to fill a garbage bag and froze it(not in the garbage bag). Mostly chard, kale, cilantro and mustard greens.