Kay Kaykayson wrote:Hi fellow people,
So my goal is an awesome shower.
rainwater collection at the top of a hill
two solar water heater panels
A 200litre hot water tank
It's in a valley, sometimes four hours direct sun.
It heavily rains, water is an abundance
It's New Zealand, so quite nice in the summer, but tomatoes are hard to grow.
Mostly it's about an awesome shower.
Use a combo of califont and solar, therefore hotter water to heat up less therefore higher flow?
Or just use a califobt? (Budget may not equal awesome shower flow)
Also have.. a running stream that I always wonder about trying to harness the energy of, but seems silly in terms of water heating
What's your opinion please plumbing minded permies?
I want to achieve a decent water flow
Kay Kaykayson wrote:Thanks for your reply, Im looking for plumbing opinions not aesthetics. I want to achieve a decent water flow. Specifically whether preheating the water via solar will help or hinder.
Chuck Zinda wrote:All these diagrams and suggestions for an "awesome shower" seem like overkill and not very permies oriented.
Jane Mulberry wrote:Those outside NZ may not be aware that a califont is an on demand water heater, either gas or electric powered. I could be wrong but I don't think the term is widely used elsewhere.
Chuck Zinda wrote:All these diagrams and suggestions for an "awesome shower" seem like overkill and not very permies oriented. When I want an awesome shower, especially after a good work day outside, I fill my shower bag early in the day, lay it out on a dark surface and let it heat up. Many times it will be so hot that I have to add a little cold water to temper it. I then hang up the shower bag and let the water run. This is an "awesome shower". Air drying in a cool breeze reinvigorates my soul and prepares me for a relaxing evening.
Mary Cook wrote:I don't know much about plumbing, I just want to put in a plug for an outdoor shower, for summer. We've had one for years, in which a black five-gallon bucket hangs from a tripod of poles, with a sort of pulley arrangement so we can lower it to refill with cold water, then hoist it up. A hose leads out of it to a showerhead with a valve so you can turn it off while you're soaping up if you need to conserve water. This was low-tech and less than awesome but there's something pleasurable about showering in the breeze and sun, with chickens running around and birds calling. But--I live in WV where the only problem growing tomatoes is that the ample rain and ample heat bring on disease every year. Our clearing gets up to 11 hours of sun in the summer. It doesn't take that many hours to get pleasantly warm water, though--on a sunny day. If I get hot and sweaty enough (lawn mowing will do it, so I usually save that chore for last) lukewarm water feels pretty good.
Mary Cook wrote:Peg, I don't think I have a picture, and we haven't set it up the last couple of years because some of the parts got lost, and we got used to just using the indoor shower (which also involves carrying a bucket of water warmed usually on the gas stove (in summer) or the woodstove in winter, upstairs to dump in a bucket which has a hose leading from the bottom down into a spigot in the shower below, with a valve on the showerhead that can be turned off to conserve water while soaping. But we had three poles, like five inches in diameter at the base and ten feet long. leaning into join at the top, then a system of two pulleys with the rope wound in loops between them was used to run the bucket up and down, a short hose--like a foot--dangled below the bucket with a small showerhead with a valve attached. You can also buy plastic bags, black on one side, with a hole in the upper part for attaching a hook. You fill it in the morning, raise it, and after a few hours in the sun makes a nice shower.
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