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Does anyone know how to harvest Sunflower seeds? 🌻

 
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I have a bunch of Sunflowers and I'd like to do things with them. I went searching for a thread but when I typed in 'Harvesting Sunflower seeds' I didn't find any, so I thought I'd start one myself.

One day I'd like to extract the oils from the Sunflowers and make a perfume or maybe roast the heads; some say it tastes like corn but I don't know anyone who's tried it so I'm not sure the of the best time for that.

Last year was my first year planting a whole plot of them and they were 100+ gorgeous 16ft tall Mammoth beauties but this year I was away during their boom and now all I have are sad droopy ones begging for new opportunities.

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We didn't get to harvest our sunflower seeds as the deer ate them all.

From what I understand, when the foliage turns yellow that is the time to harvest the sunflower seeds.

Be careful what you do with the stalks.

Joseph said, " Sunflowers can be allelopathic, so putting their residues on a burn pile seems like a fine strategy.



https://permies.com/t/122504/corn-sunflower-stalks#982040

When seeds are fully ripened and just beginning to loosen from the head, cut the stem about one inch (2.5 cm.) below the head. Now briskly rub the seeds from the head with your hand, blow off the chaff, and allow the seeds to dry before storing.

The second method for harvesting sunflowers begins when about two-thirds of the seeds are mature. Cut a longer piece of stem. 3 to 4 inches (7.5 to 10 cm.) works well. Wrap a paper bag around the head and hang the heads in in a well ventilated area for a few weeks to dry. Make sure the area is warm, but not hot. Sunflower harvesting has a long history as an American tradition and they have been part of man’s diet for centuries. Native Americans were harvesting sunflower seeds long before Europeans arrived. They boiled the heads to extract the oil and ate the seeds either raw or baked in breads and infusions were used medicinally. The seeds are a good source of calcium, phosphorus, and potassium.



https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/flowers/sunflower/harvesting-sunflowers.htm
 
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The birds tear through our wild one every year.  If I remember correctly, home gardeners often cover the flowers with something like a paper bag after it's completed the bloom.  At that point the insects aren't pollinating any longer and the seeds can mature safe from hungry birds.  

Wild seeds haven't been worth effort, the birds drop enough to ensure the next year's crop.  
 
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I specifically select for droopy heads, especially if they face exactly horizontal. That minimized predation by birds and mammals.

My favorite strategy for harvesting sunflowers is to cut off the heads, and rub them (with gloved hands) to removed the seeds from the heads. Then spread the seeds out to dry. I spent a decade selecting for seeds that are loosely connected to each other, and readily fall from the head when rubbed.

It is difficult in my climate to harvest whole heads, because there is so much water in the heads, that they mildew, in the cold/damp fall weather, instead of drying.
 
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Not about harvesting, but once you have them it's great to sprout the seeds in a cheesecloth by giving them a good soak twice a day and hanging them near the sink. After a few days add about 2/3 water to 1/3 seeds, sprout, shell and all in a blender. Blend thoroughly and then squeeze through a cheesecloth. One of the finest nut milks to be found.
 
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I grow them every year and the heads get stripped by the birds before I get a chance to harvest them. We had a horrible time with squirrels this season. They’re not only stripping the heads off all my sunflowers before they get a chance to bloom, they’re even scaling my 12’ tall flower stalks to do it. I’m trying something new this year with the survivors; I’m covering the seed head with shade cloth towards the end of the flower bloom time. Keeping my fingers crossed.
 
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I was wondering the same thing. For the seeds, we hang the heads & dry them like we would dry onions or garlic: out of direct sun but in a warm dry well-aired space.  Our place came with a couple of spaces built for the purpose off the end of the three sided barn and another off the side of the main barn.  

But how to hull them?  Hulling highly recommended before pressing into oil or sprouting to put in a salad or grinding to add to bread dough.

I ran across this unit, manufactured in Turkey: https://akyurekltd.com/en/Impact-Dehuller---Small-Scale-171s.html -- got a quote for $2500 USD.  Hoping he didn't leave off a zero.  Wondering if you could run it off your tractor's PTO like you can some cold oil presses.

If you had enough acreage in sunflowers, I suppose it would be worth the investment.  I think it can hull buckwheat, barley, spelt as well.  Might be worthwhile seeing what your neighbors might be interested in growing if only there were a place nearby to process their crop, or just sell it to.  Fields of sunflower may be combined with the right settings dialed in.

May be worth funding a small processing plant co-operatively with them. There are small nut-processing plants around, some of them co-operatively run, but haven't found one that will do sunflower seeds yet.

As it stands, we've been using our dried sunflower heads to feed our chickens. We basically turn them into eggs.  But I like eating sunflower seeds, sunflower seed sprouts, using the oil in cooking and adding the sprouted seed to bread.
 
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I harvest them with a foot or two of stalk when the backs turn yellow, or earlier if birds or raccoons are getting to them, and hang them in my greenhouse to dry. Then I rub the seeds out into a big bowl, and leave that in the sun in the greenhouse to dry further. But then, like Cheryl, I run into the problem of how to hull them. And like her what I wind up doing is feeding them to my chickens, let them worry about hulling them. But meanwhile I buy sunflower seeds for granola and bread--if I had means of hulling them maybe I could grow my own.
 
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Sunflowers naturally bend downwards as the flowerheads start to mature seeds. It protects the seeds from rain and dew standing on the surface, which would cause mold.

The seeds are harvest-able when they are hard to a fingernail, and have attained their mature color. Note that each "sunflower" is actually a flowerhead, with many individual flowers. Those in the center are small and inconspicuous, but you can see the pollen on them as they bloom. The yellow petals are on some of the flowers at the edge.  In the center, you can see the flowers that are pollinating are in a ring, maturing from the edges inward. First they open and develop pollen, then dry and shrivel, then the swelling seed becomes visible, and eventually the seeds develop their color, size, and hardness of maturity. One sign of maturity is that the calyx (the back of the flowerhead, that holds all the individual flowers) turns yellow and then brown. When yellow, some seeds are likely mature; when brown they all are (or as many as there will be, since sap is no longer going to them.)

Another sign that they are approaching maturity is that birds show up to eat them. (Birds learn after the first year, and show up in great numbers. This is a good reason to skip a year between sunflower crops, or move them to a different part of your land.) In order to get your seeds to full maturity, you may need to use some kind of barrier--individual bags or a temporary hoophouse covered with fabric, netting, or plastic. Note that if you use netting with holes large enough to work a seed through, the birds will try to do so. So any netting with holes needs to be held above the flowers too far for birds to reach in and peck.. We covered our entire bed last year with agribon (reemay) on t-posts and hoops. If you have a small number of plants, bagging is best. Paper bags will work in rain-free climates, but it's better to have something that allows more airflow. fine nylo//n mesh is ideal. You may be able to get it cheaper at a fabric or crafts store than at a garden/hardware supply. Note that agribon or reemay can be sown just like cloth with a hand needle or a sewing machine and make very economical reusable bags.

Since the flowers within the flowerhead don't bloom at once, they won't mature all at the same time either. When to harvest is a judgement based on the number of seeds that are fully mature versus the chances of losing them all to birds, frost, or heavy rain.

We cut them, then pile them in baskets, milk crates, or similar containers that allow airflow, and suspend those from the roof of the greenhouse to dry. An onion sack made of netting would work, but you might lose seeds through it. I like open baskets with a handle best. Do NOT pile them on a table or on the ground. Mice and birds love them. I have even known mice to run out along roof beams and climb down a rope to a rack attached to the ceiling. Here is our method: We run a clothesline or wire across the room or greenhouse. Then the container of flowerheads is hung from that. So far, we have not encountered tightrope-walking mice.

Once they are completely dry, you can get the seeds out by rubbing on a coarse screen or a piece of 1/2" to 3/4"hardware cloth mounted on a frame. I use the same one we use for screening compost and soil. Or a more laborious method is just to rub and bend the heads with gloved hands. Do wear leather gloves for either of these operations. The rubbing will loosen both the seeds and the stiff bracts that hold the flowers in place and form the honeycomb structure of the head. You'll need to separate out the seeds by winnowing. They are heavier than the bracts, so pouring from on high into a container in front of a fan will do the trick. Alternatively, there is a way of putting them into a big salad bowl, and jiggling so that the heavy seeds sink and the bracts collect on the surface, like gold panning. The bracts and other chaff can be skimmed or blown off the top. Do either of these operations on a tarp--they take some learning, and you don't want to lose your seeds irrevocably.  For hulling, I don't have experience, but the Davebuilt hand-crank nutcracker is adjustable to many many sizes and might well work. Other possibilities includ a corona grain mill with the plates very loose and an old-fashioned laundry wringer.

One variety well worth growing for its beauty, longer bloom, use as dye, and high oil content is Hopi Black Dye.  This is also a great choice around chicken runs, as they adore the seeds. If you throw them the occasional seedhead, it will entertain them for a long time. The heads can also be dried and fitted with a wire or ribbon to hang as a bird feeder in winter--these make great gifts. for oil, you can use the Piteba hand-crank press, or do as the Natives did and crush them, then boil the whole mass for a long time, then skim the oil off the top. The seeds are also edible as snacks, just not as large as the confectionery types. https://www.quailseeds.com/store/p264/Hopi_Black_Dye_Sunflower.html

Which brings us to sunflower seeds for eating. THE kind to grow is Humongous if you want big, easily-shelled seeds. The seeds average 3 times greater in mass than Mammoth, and are of a similar shape--rounded, not long and skinny like the Mongolian Giant. It is also the easiest to grow of the giant sunflowers (Titan, Mongolian Giant, etc.)  A farm near us trialed every giant type available, and Humongous had the biggest seeds, best germination, fastest growth, earliest maturity, and best yield. https://www.quailseeds.com/store/p72/Humongous_Sunflower.html
 
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I harvest giant sunflowers on a “biodynamic  flower day” when most of the yellow petals have dropped off. I rub off the florets, clear off all insect and any otherwise damaged seeds (chickens love them) with a pocketknife then allow the head full of seeds to dry in the sun without removing them from the flower head.
I store them that way as well once the flesh of the flower has dried up completely. My favorite way to eat them are as micro greens. I save the “best” and biggest seeds as well as by certain colors...  I am just starting to select for giant single-headed sunflowers that only grow under 6 feet tall so I can better observe the developing flower, which has an incredible fragrance as it grows to maturity (which explains why bees love ‘em) and much less likely to be blown over by the wind... We have dogs on the property that keep the deer away.
 
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I've not done much harvesting of my occasional decorative sunflower but each year I mean to plant more and try to save some seed. Love the idea of making some nut milk with them.

One thing I've found this year is that my bunnies absolutely adore the leaves.
 
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Had an idea some years ago to re-use the woven bags that certain produce comes in - onions, oranges, lemons, potatoes, etc. Some are large sacs and some are smaller and some are even stretchy for small bulbs of garlic. So I saved up a few different sizes and thought to use them to cover ripening fruit to "disguise" it and keep critters from pecking at it. It was easy enough to put a bag over the ends of branches and cover one or more fruits at a time securing the bags to the branch with clothespins or ties. This worked quite well initially but there were some bags that got thrown to the ground by "smart" jays or other critters and they still got at the fruit. It might work to cover the sunflower seed heads with one of the larger sacs to keep animals from messing with it. It would still allow sunlight & rain to pass through and give room for growth to maturity.
 
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Ahoy! I'd like to find out how I harvest my seeds for oil, food and stuff to become self sufficient in times of hardship and need. Made sunflower oil before?
 
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Blake Lenoir wrote:Ahoy! I'd like to find out how I harvest my seeds for oil, food and stuff to become self sufficient in times of hardship and need. Made sunflower oil before?



As I said above, Piteba makes a hand-crank oil press that is well-made and sells for under $200. There are knock-offs from China that are not good steel or good fits, but the Piteba is from Denmark and works well. The low-tech method I describe above doesn't extract as fully, but it is what Native farmers used for centuries.

One thing I didn't mention in my previous post is that flower size is partly dependent on variety, but is also regulated by planting density. Plant closely for smaller flowers on smaller plants that mature faster. Plant far apart for larger flowers with larger seeds that take a bit longer to mature.
 
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Leave them on the stalk as long as possible.  Keep an eye on them because in the humid south they will probably mold if you try this.  You can also cut them with enough stalk to tie several heads together then hang them in the barn out of the weather and let them dry that way.  However you choose to dry them, remember that mold is not your friend at this point.  Once dry put on some leather gloves then begin rubbing the seeds off the head.  I do this into a wheelbarrow.  Then I set up a fan blow away the chaff.  You WILL definitely have to defend against the thieves, both the winged and four-footed.
 
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Along with harvesting the seeds I wanted to know about hulling them for eating/ cooking. I googled it and found this fantastic site on dehulling them, how to press them for oil, use for animals. It also talked about 2 different kinds you should plant and how many, how much room you need and specifics on planting.

The site gave full plans to build the dehuller,winnowing and the oil press

The site is journeytoforever.org/oilpress

Hope everyone finds this as interesting as I did
 
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Saralee Couchoud wrote:
The site gave full plans to build the dehuller,winnowing and the oil press

The site is journeytoforever.org/oilpress


Saralee, could you please double check the address?
 
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OK, think I've got it

Journeytoforever.org >oilpress

This site appears to be a smaller version of permies.com based in Japan
 
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Saralee Couchoud wrote:OK, think I've got it

Journeytoforever.org >oilpress

This site appears to be a smaller version of permies.com based in Japan


http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/oilpress.html

Here's a link for the site. It was a very good article from a 1979 magazine. It really does cover everything, including plans to build yourself.
 
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Ooh, lots of awesome info here. I like the biodiesel link, but suspect that for me, a combo of bicycle (possibly electric) plus trailer and the excellent €49/month "Deutschland Ticket" that is valid on all public transport (bar intercity trains) across all Germany makes more sense.

If I ever save enough sunflowers from the birds and deer, I might try the de-hulling/salad oil options. And get chickens!
 
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Sunflower sprouts are the best-tasting sprouts that I have ever eaten. The challenge is hulling them.....
 
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Getting to sunflower seed heads before squirrels and birds. My neighbor made a bag of several layers of cheese cloth and wrapped it around the flower head while the stalk was about 6' tall and the flower head was about 12-16" across. the bag was large enough to accommodate the growing flower head. Hope this helps.
 
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