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As we are trying to infect brains with rocket mass heater stuff, one of the biggest issues is to simply see a rocket mass heater in action. See the sideways burn. Feel the warmth during the fire and feel the warmth when the fire has been out for a day.

Actually seeing and using a rocket mass heater makes a huge difference.

Maybe we should host some sort of rocket event over a weekend. Something for people that might be here for just a few hours - combined with something where people might stay overnight to experience the longer term stuff of a rocket mass heater.

At this point, it is just an idea.

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Excellent Idea, it works great!
I have invited numerous folks over to view my RMHs. in action
It is always a pleasant visit with many exclamations of OMG I had no idea how impressive these are!
Almost every visit here has resulted in an RMH being built elsewhere!
Currently, there is a 7" batch being built in N.Idaho that was inspired by a permaculture talk Paul gave in Sandpoint.
I invited those folks over to see my Dragons in flight. They asked all sorts of questions, went home, and started buying supplies.
We even arranged a trade of Dragontech parts for a sick Subaru they no longer needed!
Their RMH should be up and running in the next few weeks.
Seeing is believing!

For all your Montana Masonry Heater parts (also known as) Rocket Mass heater parts.
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A short event would include the rocket mass heaters we have at basecamp.

in the fisher price house (9 winters)

https://permies.com/t/48515/permaculture-projects/pebble-style-rmh-fisher-price

in the solarium

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in the library

https://permies.com/t/120/30006/permaculture-projects/pebble-style-rocket-mass-heater

in the classroom

in the love shack

red cabin

bun warmer

season extender

rocket oven

rocket kiln

lorena cook stove

woodshop

unpressurized rocket water heater

pressurized rocket water heater

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I would be into this. I live in The Missoula area and have spent the last 6 months building the bones of my house and next year comes the earthen floor and the rmh. This is a winter for research.

I would probably be in the “hang out for a few hours” crowd.

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Maybe we start at 10am and I could give a presentation in the classroom. Then we have lunch. And then we go around and look at all the rocket mass heaters at basecamp. Or most. Maybe some will be running and some will have been run a few hours earlier. Maybe light one on the spot. See the sideways burn. See the exhaust. Feel the heat for how little wood is burning. Feel the heat when there is no wood burning.

Maybe limit it to 24 people.

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Yes, that's a great idea. As a matter of fact, that's precisely how I met you guys. I came there for a RMH course. Remember me?

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I’d be interested in that if on a weekend and a couple of weeks advance notice. Give my wife and I an excuse to come out again!
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Daxx Terry Green wrote:Yes, that's a great idea. As a matter of fact, that's precisely how I met you guys. I came there for a RMH course. Remember me?

Was it for the cooper cabin rmh build?

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Jeff Higdon wrote:I’d be interested in that if on a weekend and a couple of weeks advance notice. Give my wife and I an excuse to come out again!
Jeff

I feel like if there is enough interest, then we should pick a date at least four weeks out. Maybe Dec 31 or Jan 7.

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The tour will feature 7 rocket mass heaters, 2 rocket heaters and 6 other rockety things. 15 rockety things total.

rocket mass heaters

fisher price house
solarium
library
classroom
love shack
red cabin
season extender

rocket heaters

wood shop
bun warmer

other rockety things

rocket oven
rocket kiln
lorena rocket cooktop
pressurized rocket water heater
unpressurized rocket water heater
solar food dehydrator with rocket assist

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I'd love to participate in such an event!

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thomas rubino wrote:Excellent Idea, it works great!

If we do this, will you come to the event?

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No Promises Paul;
If I'm not back working by then I could stop by for a visit on a Sat afternoon, as long as life does not point me in another direction on that day.
Perhaps it might fit my schedule better if I allow folks from the N. Idaho area to stop by on their way past and see my Batch box with bell and Batch box with piped mass in action.
If I start back working then there is no chance for any of this to happen.

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click on the thumbs up on this post if you are more likely to come out on dec 31 than on jan 7

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click on the thumbs up on this post if you are more likely to come out on jan 7 than on dec 31

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click on the thumbs up on this post if you think dec 31 and jan 7 are both equally good days for you.

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click on the thumbs up on this post if you think dec 31 and jan 7 are both equally sucky days for you.

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Yep I'm in. I joined just for the invite. Cheers!

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Film it! I’ve been wanting to see a comparative tour of RMHs for some time.

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I couldn't figure out how to click on the thumbs up but I'm going to be out of town Dec. 31- Jan 16 so couldn't make either of the dates you proposed.

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Adam Klaus wrote:Film it! I’ve been wanting to see a comparative tour of RMHs for some time.

If you come by, you are welcome to film it.

If anybody is here and wants to film it, I don't mind.

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I know a few newbies to this concept that would love to come. Is there an estimate for the price of this shebang?

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Becky Lawson wrote:I know a few newbies to this concept that would love to come. Is there an estimate for the price of this shebang?

There is an organization in Missoula that i would like to support. I am thinking that they might handle the part about selling tickets and stuff (and keep all the proceeds). But I still need to talk to them about that - it sounds like one of the permies.com staff is trying to get in touch with them.

At the moment, the thing i wish to propose to them is $15 for their members and $50 for non-members (membership is $35). So they might leverage it as an opportunity to build membership.

I am also contacting some VIPs to extend complimentary tix. I am thinking that we might say anybody that has been here before can come for free (provided they rsvp) and anybody that has backed a past kickstarter for $100 or more can come for free.

Those are my rough thoughts so far.

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This sounds like a lot of fun!

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I just finished a rocket mass heater last week! I'm in Livingston, Montana. I'd be happy to show mine to anyone driving through. ~ john gregory

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John, that is a nice brick stove.

Can you tell the forum a little more about how it was made?

Do you have pictures from while it was being built?

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I started with Matt Remine's plans. But I'm using a forced air option to draw the air and send it out the side of my house. And it's elevated off my floor which is vinyl over wood subfloor. ~ john

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Here are a couple more earlier pics. ~ john

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I would love to attend something like this!

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If you put such a tour together, we would be interested in it. We are near Helmville, planning to build an RMH in the spring

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I see the post for purchasing ticket. Is there an option to rsvp for those of us that have been to Wheaton Labs, or how do we do that?

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I think that the first step is to have it confirmed by somebody like beau or jeff. Maybe the way to get that started is to send an email to pa at permies.com.

Free to anybody that has:

- been here before
- backed a past kickstarter at $100 or more

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Wheaton Labs must have the greatest density per square foot, of rocket mass heaters, in the world! This new video made by Reid, a Boot at Wheaton Labs, is a great little tour of one in the Love Shack. It's a tiny RMH that has a new innovation - the 'cob hat'. It's cute and cosy!
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