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They're coming after meat, now..

 
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I don’t keep up with the news, and was reluctant to read the article because it’s on the washington post, but I want to raise cows, so I read the article.

Interestingly, the article is somewhat right, in a sense that to keep up growing demand of cheap commodity beef requires deforestation to expand the acreage for the soil to be abused with steel and chemicals to grow mono crops of grain to feed beef cattle in CAFO’s, will indeed cause major environmental problems.

What I don’t like about the article is it’s very narrow sighted as there is no mention of grazing cows on pasture and eliminating feeding grain altogether. Instead, the author, who is hiding behind the pen name Editorial Board, supports a solution of getting cows to grow faster, inventing new feed additives, using new gene modification to boost crop efficiency and using new “food preservation technologies” which I read as chemical preservatives.

To conclude the article, Mr. Board starts to offer a glimmer of hope, stating that humanity has a surprising range of options to clean up food production, but since Mr. Board has an axe to grind and can't upset his boss with broad viewed and fair journalism, there is no mention of regenerative agricultural practices and wants to leave the reader with the notion that technology is the solution.

At least it’s an opinion article, and this opinion means nothing to me.

(I'm not one to rant much, but yay cider press!)
 
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"we-have-no-idea-yet-how-to-feed-the-planet-without-frying-it"

Author doesn't know about stuff therefore it doesn't exist.

 
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Exactly my take-away, you two :)   And I think it's just one more 'bullet' in this well-orchestrated campaign to vilify meat.  They seem to be coming from many directions, but with one aim.
 
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I was turned off meat 4 years ago after watching a doc called "Earthlings" and haven't had a bite since. It's more focused on large scale factory farming and the associated horrors. Terrible sights to see

I said that I would never eat it again unless I killed it and prepared it myself. I went vegan overnight! I was a HUGE meat eater, going for steak and eggs as much as I could afford.

Over the last 6 months I have went back to eating some cheeses and eggs - mainly to keep the weight on as I work hard outdoors and felt the need to keep my fat and muscle alive. I went from a solid 205 lb.  to 165 lb. over the 3 years vegan and since I went back to eggs and some cheese I am now maintaining 185 lb.

I'm still open to the idea of hunting for myself and my dogs, but haven't taken self-sustainability that far yet.

Yes I do still buy some processed foods from a grocery store...so do all the meat eaters I know. I eat pretty darn healthy and it shows in my health and work ability. No adverse effects felt by me from lack of meat - in fact my flexibility has increased and my joint pain has decreased since cutting out meat and cutting WAY down on eggs and dairy. I'm strong as I ever was!

I am not completely against small scale animal farmers but personally I wouldn't feel good about making money off of the planned killing of another creature.

I also  work on an organic vegetable farm and bring home lots of home grown goodies...and planning on attempting some canning soon to see the limits of healthy sustenance during winter from a plant-based diet.

As long as I have successful veggie harvests and a varied diet then so far I haven't felt the need to go back to eating meat. Sure, I would like to cut down on grocery purchases and when the day comes I am able to live on my property in a permaculture manner (stuck in the 'burbs for now lol) I will consider some hunting and chickens for eggs...but still weary about killing a domesticated animal for food!

The more I learn and see how people are doing things in an environmentally friendly way I am learning to appreciate some aspects of animal farming but not sure it would ever be right for me.

...Just some random thoughts from a day-dreaming plant-based dude, if you happened to care

BTW I dislike most aspects of media, corporations and government in the use of smear and/or fear campaigns to promote or demote a certain aspect of a culture, society, or individual lifestyles. There are good and bad ways to do things, and mostly I think that it takes a little bit of research and a lot of common sense to come to a conclusion that works comfortably for your own set of values!

If we keep it to ourselves then we'll probably be happy with that conclusion - but trying to get others to agree won't always work in your favor. I've learned the hard way and try to be more open minded and friendly now, or just keep my mouth shut lol
 
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Just to reiterate, my goal here is to alert any interested folks to the clear possibility that those of us who do eat meat, may not have that opportunity in the future... either it will be priced out of reach, or just not there.   It is about a concerted effort by large political players to vilify meat consumption, which some of us might like to keep an eye on.  I guess it's really about ... our freedom to choose our individual diet, whatever it may be.
 
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nancy sutton wrote:Just to reiterate, my goal here is to alert any interested folks to the clear possibility that those of us who do eat meat, may not have that opportunity in the future... either it will be priced out of reach, or just not there.   It is about a concerted effort by large political players to vilify meat consumption, which some of us might like to keep an eye on.  I guess it's really about ... our freedom to choose our individual diet, whatever it may be.



Hi! Hopefully you didn't take my post in a hurtful, personal way.

I re-read it and at the end I can see how maybe you or another could feel like I was being pushy but it's not intentional, and actually it's more directed to my own experience of failures in the past about trying to convert others to a plant-based diet.

Thanks for clarifying your point, and again I feel like maybe I should not even have commented at all but it is a subject that means a lot to me, my apologies if I de-railed things a bit
 
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