John Weiland wrote:
Second: 'Persistence'. It took some reading to realize what this was about and seems to be about being able to save documents and.....perhaps other app installations or no?.....on the same USB flash drive, assuming the drive is large enough to contain the US and the extra partitioned storage space. I did test out and notice that with any of the distros I've tested (again, doing this on a Win7 laptop of ~2010 era) I can create files in the Linux applications (LibreOffice, files saved from the various web-browsers, etc.) and save them onto my internal hard drive. When re-booting to Win7 I can open those files in Word or other appropriate applications. With that in mind, I'm wondering if.....
Third: ..... I shouldn't just keep the set up as it is--- with the Boot Order changed now to boot to the USB stick first and, if absent, then to the HDD/Windows7....? My legacy Win7 items would be preserved, but I could take advantage of the offerings on the USB stick at hand. What I lose is some modification ability for that particular Distro since it's burned onto that USB drive (yes..?) Will think about this option more in comparison to replacing Win7 with Linux or creating the dual boot situation which has been noted to have some issues.
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
Installing on Hard Drive: I would not recommend trying to set up a dual-boot with DRPi. The installer is NOT user friendly for non-techies -- you need to know exactly what you are doing. I did a clean install on an old hard drive (no dual boot) and that worked fine.
It doesn't seem much faster on a HDD than on a stick/card. My 2c: I think it's a good idea to run DRPi from the stick and leave your Windows hard drive alone.
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John Weiland wrote:The 'ease of installation' is one parameter that I'm researching as I test out the different offerings. Do you have a feel for which ones are easiest for the layperson installer? You mentioned using Zorin....did that install easier than RaspPi?
John Weiland wrote:It's too bad....I think my parents finally crossed that line in age/abilities to really be able to take advantage of a computer at this point.
John Weiland wrote:I suppose in some way it could be argued that this thread is no longer so aligned with Permaculture per se, but I guess I feel that anything that 'recycles' otherwise landfill-destined hardware is pointing towards less waste.
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:What would be a reasonable minimum amount of storage for a laptop running Debian Raspberry Pi? I'm thinking of basic systems for seniors or students. They would have most of their stuff online. The OS will take up about 4GB.
Reason for asking: I have functional laptops to give away but I'm out of old hard drives. I can get 16GB SD cards for $5-6 on sale, and 32GB SD cards for about $8-10. Is that enough space to be practical?
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:Agreed, Debian Raspberry Pi is bare bones. It's all about black-belt frugality with system resources. But it does what a lot of people really need. The implementation is really slick IMO, and the fact that everything "just works" off a stick is remarkable. It's a good tool in my toolbox.
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:....I try all sorts of distros and, when the shiny new-ness wears off and the limits appear, go back to Linux Mint every time. That's the best recommendation I can offer.
I should note that my concern over installers is only about creating dual-boot setups (Mint does this well). For single OS installations, all versions work fine.
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My impression is that Linux Mint has a pretty deep user community support, but I'm a rote newbie to Linux so other Distros may be deeper.
John Weiland wrote:And my understanding is that, just like commercial OSs, the open source communities behind the different Distros are generally adding improvements along the way, yes?
John Weiland wrote:with respect to apps and given that some apps may *work* better with some distros, is app *installation ease* something specific to the application or to the OS Distro?... maybe both?
Douglas Alpenstock wrote: Buying SSDs and charging money for the laptops is a good idea, but impractical in these pandemic times. When people hand over cash, they naturally want to test out the unit (as would I). Right now, we're in semi-lockdown, in winter. Public spaces are off limits. It's logistically impossible.
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Jarret Hynd wrote:
Douglas Alpenstock wrote: Buying SSDs and charging money for the laptops is a good idea, but impractical in these pandemic times. When people hand over cash, they naturally want to test out the unit (as would I). Right now, we're in semi-lockdown, in winter. Public spaces are off limits. It's logistically impossible.
Ah I see, that's true. In my area it's not quite the same mentality or restrictions, but I understand.
I hope you just have better luck than I did in the past. Probably only 1/10 of the repurposed refurbs I tried to give away actually found a new home. People seem to be very brand-oriented, and without it being Windows or Mac, they don't want to bother. Yet those same people would probably buy laptops from 2010 with 2GB of ram "running" windows 10 for $50 :(
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Abraham Palma wrote:Does the nouveau driver work?
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The holy trinity of wholesomeness: Fred Rogers - be kind to others; Steve Irwin - be kind to animals; Bob Ross - be kind to yourself
The holy trinity of wholesomeness: Fred Rogers - be kind to others; Steve Irwin - be kind to animals; Bob Ross - be kind to yourself
paul@paul-W541:~$ cvt 3560 1440
# 3560x1440 59.96 Hz (CVT) hsync: 89.51 kHz; pclk: 433.25 MHz
Modeline "3560x1440_60.00" 433.25 3560 3816 4200 4840 1440 1443 1453 1493 -hsync +vsync
paul@paul-W541:~$ xrandr --newmode "3560x1440_60.00" 433.25 3560 3816 4200 4840 1440 1443 1453 1493 -hsync +vsync
paul@paul-W541:~$ xrandr --addmode HDMI-1-1 3560x1440_60.00
paul@paul-W541:~$ xrandr --output HDMI-1-1 --mode 3560x1440_60.00
my version of linux being so seriously old ...
Abraham Palma wrote:
my version of linux being so seriously old ...
It can be kernel issues. My old laptop with Manjaro must stay at linux4.4 or else it won't load. Can you try an older kernel?
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had chopped up the hard drive into multiple (at least 5) partitions that were all too small to work
In the south when the wind gets to 75 mph they give it a name and call it a hurricane. Here we call it a mite windy...
But I did oops and got the wrong version and now need to reinstall one with non free drivers to make my graphics card work.
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