Galen Young wrote:The primary consumption of energy here is home heating. Active Solar Heating systems give you much better 'bang' for the buck than do Solar power systems.
Devin Lavign wrote:... When going off grid you do often need to think outside the box and look at alternatives to using power to do stuff, since it is no longer cheap and readily available. Hanging clothes outside/inside on a line rather than a drier for example saves a lot of power use. There are tons of little things you can do and big things you can do to reduce the need to use power to accomplish a goal. Being off grid you really need to access everything that uses power and figure out if there is another way. And if you can live with using the other way. Some will be fine opting for hand washing clothes, others will insist on powered washer. bneither is right or wrong, it depends on you and your family and what is best for you. A single guy washing clothes by hand is a lot easier than a family of 4.
Galen Young wrote:To assume that using solar power means that you must handwash your dishes, or use a clothesline to dry your clothes is a false narrative.
William Bronson wrote:It started with food.
I had no job.
I was willing able and skilled, but unemployed.
I had a mortgage to pay.
I felt helpless.
Freedom from want requires controm over the means of production.
Growing food in my yard was the first step.
I look at going off grid as a way to control my outputs.
Everything I "must " do is paid for in personal freedom.
When you buy on credit, you are subject to enslavement.
I wanted to end $250.00 a quarter water bills.
I planned out how to harvest rainwater for my toilet flushing and cloths washing.
When I realized that the tank would have to huge,and it still would only last 1/3rd of a month, I got wise.
A used low flush toilet and a used high efficiency washer later and my water bills are down to $150.00 a month.
Most of that is sewage charges, a multiple of my winter water use.
Now a tank for flushing and washing water can be a fraction of the size,and still get me through the month.
I owe less of my time to someone else.
Solar speaks to me for the same reason.
I was between jobs when I sought out a used gas dryer.
I was ready to take a chance on it for 20 bucks, but the seller have it to me for free!
My electric bills are way down.
My refrigeration is my next target.A freezer converted to a fridge does not offend my wife.
When I get as far as conservation can take me, then I will
I see solar as a way to fight inflation, control my destiny,and provide for my family even after my death.
Like owning land,owning PV solar is owning the means of production.
Anything you can do to to collect and store the sunlight falling on your land is building wealth.
Turning PV generated electicity into refrigeration is like growing plants and canning them.
Home heating with wood is next,within the constraints of city building code and home insurance. with charcoal production a goal.
I see converting a conventional vehicle to burn charcoal gas as my best path to driving without gasoline.
I would like to grid tie if I'm ever able to do solar, but only if there is net metering at that point.
I would just as soon buy a share in a solar farm, if it could zero out my electrical bills.
Batteries are one more thing to take care of and maintain.
I'm not against the grid(s), anymore than I'm against the roads or the internet. I live in a city, and I'm in favor of being enmeshed in society, rather than apart from it.
I'm just trying to be a user of the grid, not used by it.
I think she's lovely. It's this tiny ad that called her crazy:
Profitable Permaculture in the Far North with Richard Perkins - Gracie's backyardhttps://permies.com/wiki/133872/videos/Profitable-Permaculture-North-Richard-Perkins