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This tree is 2 years old, and produce at least a bushel of delicious peaches, and the blossoms survived 2 frosts. I cut it down two years ago because I thought it was a dud, it had tiny yellowish pink flowers and didn't produce fruit so I didn't think it was a true peach. I cut it down and grafted scion wood from another seedling peach that is the same age and also produces good fruit, but the grafts failed and this year it surprised me and made an abundance of peaches. This is in zone five. Out of four original seedlings, I now have four producing fruit,  three of which are good, and one that is a sour grapefruit tasting dud, which I plan to graft the others onto. One makes a large yellow peach, one a small yellow red peach and the newest on is a large orange red peach. I cut them all down at one point or another over the last 4 years because some rabbits got loose and girdled them. One of them has been fruiting for 2 years and has given me several babies from fallen fruit. I find that if I feed them compost like tomatoes they grow like crazy and produce early.. Just want people to know that peaches are definitely worth growing from seed, at least up to zone 5.
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Awesome, I have a seedling plum, nectarine and a peach.
They are all fruiting at the moment and exceeded the store bought grafted ones.
 
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Gurkan Yeniceri wrote:Awesome, I have a seedling plum, nectarine and a peach.
They are all fruiting at the moment and exceeded the store bought grafted ones.



Yes!  Seedlings are the only way to go in my opinion. Even for apples. I've never eaten an apple from mine yet, but it doesn't matter because I'm using them for rootstock. I've grafted up to four named varieties per seedling and many of them have taken. I usually leave enough of the original seedling to taste in the future. They grow much faster than potted grafted trees too.
 
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Wow, awesome pictures and results! I heard peaches did pretty well from seed, but that sounds even better than I expected. I think it was Luther Burbank that said if everyone planted fruit seeds, we would have many more good varieties well suited for each particular climate.

I'm exited about doing this soon too! My peach trees would have produced this year for the first time, but the bugs got in them really bad this year. I'm going to protect them this coming up year, so I'll hopefully have some good peaches and peach seeds to plant next year!

I do have some baby Triumph muscadine grape seedlings that came up as volunteers this year, so I'm exciting to see how they do and the fruit they bear. Keep up the good work!
 
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I was sceptical, but this year i had quite a lot of nice peaches of my three year old seedling volunteer. I read peaches were the first exotic invasive species in USA on permies somewhere. I saved all seeds of my three peaches , it was mad this year, i made peach wine for moonshine. I had 300 maybe, and agreed with the farmer to have a lot of peach trees, we have some cooperation going on. I planted 200 of those. If a hundred come and fifty get big after moving to definite spot and 25 have good peaches, it will be great. For us in the community, and for the wildlife that will gubble up what we don't use. Peaches, pears and apples used to grow in the hedgerows my local neighbour says, and now hunters complain there is no wildlife like used to, but everybody has these neat hedges with nothing edible in it.
 
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Hugo Morvan wrote: Peaches, pears and apples used to grow in the hedgerows my local neighbour says, and now hunters complain there is no wildlife like used to, but everybody has these neat hedges with nothing edible in it.



Seems like the natural adaptation of fruit trees growing from seed and vigorous in that climate created a little permaculture haven in the hegderows. :) It's encouraging to see ideas of growing food shifting back in that direction!
 
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I have two trees from seed, both in containers, as I live on a very rainy island :)  I was convinced they were both doughnut peach seedlings, but when one fruited for the first time this year it turned out to be a nectarine.  I can't say it was a particularly spectacular fruit, but I'll give it another chance at least, and there's still the other (younger) tree which will hopefully fruit next year (four and three years old respectively).  Both little trees are very sturdy, despite growing in pots.  My young son and I have planted several seeds from storebought peaches this summer, so maybe we'll get a few more up next spring too.
 
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Here  are a few second generation seedlings, all first year.
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And a two year old nectarine seedling, has been munched down by deer a couple times.
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And here is a seedling apple with several named varieties grafted on. It's about 12' tall and three years old. I used a tongue and cleft and just wrapped with cellophane.
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In climates with wet winters peach trees are susceptible to peach leaf curl the following spring. Some varieties have been developed that have strong resistance to that. I wonder if planting the pit from these would generally carry on this gene? Has anyone tried it?
 
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Galadriel, do you have problems with leaf curl there too? Have you thought about grafting over the seedlings if the fruit still isn't satisfactory?
 
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James Landreth wrote:In climates with wet winters peach trees are susceptible to peach leaf curl the following spring. Some varieties have been developed that have strong resistance to that. I wonder if planting the pit from these would generally carry on this gene? Has anyone tried it?



Some of the offspring should carry that trait from the parent but some may not. I'm interested in breeding tasty disease resistant fruit by selecting vigorous growers in our hot humid climate where lots of fruit trees struggle.
 
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Dan Allen wrote:And here is a seedling apple with several named varieties grafted on. It's about 12' tall and three years old. I used a tongue and cleft and just wrapped with cellophane.



That is one tall apple! Any fruit yet?
 
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No fruit yet. I think it should next year because it appears to have blossom buds on it. But not the grafts, I just did them this spring. They did take, at least 3 of them put out new growth. Hopefully I'll be able to try the fruit next fall. If it's no good I'll cut down that tall whip and focus it's growth on the grafts, it has Johnathan, golden delicious and honeycrisp.
 
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James Landreth wrote:Galadriel, do you have problems with leaf curl there too? Have you thought about grafting over the seedlings if the fruit still isn't satisfactory?



Yes, they both got some degree of leaf curl, though both shook it off fairly well, with a lot of growth over summer.  I have an almond tree too (a bought, grafted specimen) which also gets mild leaf curl.  Most UK gardening sources suggest growing in containers partly to combat leaf curl--apparently the fungus is introduced through rainfall during flowering.  But containers are also recommended because we generally have such cool summers and a warm patio (or a greenhouse) is more likely to coax fruit than a more exposed position in the garden.

Grafting is a great idea, and if one tree is superior, I'll definitely try it.

 
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I planted seeds from my fridge today between rain storms. Apple, plum, nectarine, and peach. I was excited to see the nectarines were starting to sprout.  Hopefully they will do their thing and come up in the spring. If not I will try again next year.

They cleared a bunch of foliage in my apartment complex back in the city. I am bummed because there is that much less privacy.  But happy because I might get enough light now to grow things and that is a nice thought. Trying to look at the bright side (literally).
 
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Sonja Draven wrote:I planted seeds from my fridge today between rain storms. Apple, plum, nectarine, and peach. I was excited to see the nectarines were starting to sprout.  Hopefully they will do their thing and come up in the spring. If not I will try again next year.

They cleared a bunch of foliage in my apartment complex back in the city. I am bummed because there is that much less privacy.  But happy because I might get enough light now to grow things and that is a nice thought. Trying to look at the bright side (literally).



That's awesome, and admirable. Plant trees everywhere. I plant fruit trees at all my favorite fishing spots with my son. Eat a peach plant a pit.
 
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Update on the peaches:
Well, it seems they had a rough time this winter. The lowest low was -26 in January for a full night. That's a solid zone 4 winter, the last time we had temps like that was 2014. The trees survived fine, some minor tip die back and very few blossoms, around fifty compared to the usual uncountable flowers. Second generation seedlings all survived with even less tip burn. Even through sassafrasses and catalpas got burned this winter. First pic is the unusual blossoms of the large yellow peach, second pic is a seedling leafing out, third pic is another seedling peach with normal blossoms. Our spring is a full month late this year.
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And here are several grafts that I put on a seedling apple last spring. No fruit on this one yet. But all grafts were successful, so if the seedling produces good fruit it will have four varieties.
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Dan Allen wrote:Update on the peaches:
Well, it seems they had a rough time this winter. The lowest low was -26 in January for a full night. That's a solid zone 4 winter, the last time we had temps like that was 2014. The trees survived fine, some minor tip die back and very few blossoms, around fifty compared to the usual uncountable flowers. Second generation seedlings all survived with even less tip burn. Even through sassafrasses and catalpas got burned this winter. First pic is the unusual blossoms of the large yellow peach, second pic is a seedling leafing out, third pic is another seedling peach with normal blossoms. Our spring is a full month late this year.



That's really neat that the second generation has even less tip burn.

It's awesome that they're even more adapted to your area, super encouraging to hear, very cool Dan!
 
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I'm kinda bummed that the cold knocked back so many blossoms, but I'm fairly confident I'll get a little fruit off them this year, but nothing like last year's harvest. I potted up another fifty seeds from my best two trees. On a related note I have a peach tree that is a grafted cultivar, from a nursery and is about 8 years in the ground. It has only produced 1 peach, and not much growth, and this year not a single blossom, so I dont think I'll ever mess with grafted cultivar again. Seeds are the way to go! At least for peaches.
 
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