What does the apple next to my name mean?

Jennifer and I are in a dead heat. We both received 6 apples in the last 30 days and(is it we or we've? Trying them both) we've both received 72 thumbs up. We're both good lookin etc... How will the tie be broken ? Will I invent something awesome ? Will Jennifer post more great photos ? Will she give compliments that are less than sincere ? Or something more devious ? How can she be stopped ?

I leave it in your capable hands. My, you folks are looking sharp tonight, I was just ... Hey. What's that ? Some crazy fool is trying to break into the house !!! Gotta go !!! I'll get the golf clubs and whack him a good one. I'll take some pictures and let you know how it turns out. He's on the roof with a bunch of animals. What the fuc_. Later !

----------------------- I'm back. You will not believe what just happened. I knocked a guy out with a golf club !!! Check it out. --- https://permies.com/t/30833/md/Dale-home-security-scare-Knocked

edit --- It's Christmas morning and all is right with the world. Jennifer dropped to 70 thumbs up, while I jumped to 74. The story about the break in was bound to be popular. And 30 days ago, miss popular had an off day.

Users with most thumbs up (last 30 days)
User Total
Jennifer Wadsworth 72-2=70 So close yet ...
Dale Hodgins 72 +2=74 Smack down! nananana NA --- I'm very mature.
Burra Maluca 62
John Elliott 48
Adam Klaus 44
John Polk 38
wayne stephen 32
R Scott 27
Matu Collins 26
S Bengi 24
Miles Flansburg 23
Ann Torrence 22 and another foot long bunch of names.

Users with most apples (last 30 days)
User Total
Burra Maluca 9
Dale Hodgins 6
Jennifer Wadsworth 6
Rebecca Holman 6
Ann Torrence 5
Matu Collins 5
Adam Klaus 5 --- and the rest

I remember reading somewhere, that we shouldn't hijack threads. Upon review, it was something that I wrote. I've certainly done more than my share on this one. It's for a good cause, so all of the new people won't have to ask about the apples.

Jennifer and I are still slugging it out. I have had quite a few rain days and a lot of time on my hands during the holidays. I've kept my worthy adversary at bay for now, but hopefully I will soon land a big job that will leave me too tired to type past midnight most evenings. I thus concede defeat even before the tide changes. We've both had a good run these past couple months and done some of our better work. There were several inventions in my head that needed to get out. I hope to scrounge materials at some demolition projects soon and build some prototypes. Enough of this mid winter armchair stuff.

Now the rundown of the top 10 in each category --- Most thumbs up in last 30 days. She had me on the ropes a couple weeks back, but who's laughing now. Burra has kept right on our heels. Every time she delivers a spanking, there's another thumb. Stop it ! She's a very modest woman. Discipline and unfathomable power are her reward.

Dale Hodgins 130 --------- SMACK --- edit the next ---- 135 SMACK
Jennifer Wadsworth 119 --- DOWN --------morning ----- 116 DOWN
Burra Maluca 102
Adam Klaus 97
John Polk 82
wayne stephen 81
R Scott 79
Cj Verde 67
Matu Collins 66
John Elliott 61

Most thumbs up all time ---- I've clawed my way to second place. Adam Klaus and John Elliott are the newest members in the top 10.
John Polk 799
Dale Hodgins 611
Tyler Ludens 582
Burra Maluca 523
Adrien Lapointe 427
wayne stephen 416
John Elliott 341
Kristie Wheaton 330
Leila Rich 323
Adam Klaus 318

Users with most apples (last 30 days) I'm gonna pretend this category doesn't exist.

Jennifer Wadsworth 14
Burra Maluca 12
Dale Hodgins 10
Jeanne Boyarsky 7
wayne stephen 6
Jessica Gorton 6
Erica Wisner 5
Andrew Monkhouse 4
Len Ovens 4
Julia Winter 4

Users with most apples (all time) This is the biggie. For some reason I chose to show the top 12 in this category. At 28, Jennifer is not far behind.
Burra Maluca 62
Leila Rich 60
John Polk 59
Erica Wisner 55
Jaikiran Pai 53
tel jetson 47
Adrien Lapointe 45
Allan Savory 44
Jeanne Boyarsky 40
Cassie Rauk 37
Julia Winter 35
Dale Hodgins 35

Thank you, and good night. --- Just to mess with Jennifer, give me a few thumbs up when you stumble into anything that you don't hate. It'll really mess with her head.

OK Dale, I gave you a thumbs up just because I like to see someone besides me stir the pot.

Cj Verde wrote:OK Dale, I gave you a thumbs up just because I like to see someone besides me stir the pot.

Back at ya. The system doesn't let me give 2. I've been asked, prodded and warned to not stir the pot. You therefore only see an edited version of my opinions on a variety of subjects. My natural style is a Christopher Hitchens-esque bludgeoning approach. But the niceness policy precludes me from exploring that side of my nature.

You should take some good, healthy, organic pork down to the Orthodox folks and petition them to declare it Kosher. That pot has been stirred a few times.

Dale Hodgins wrote:
You should take some good, healthy, organic pork down to the Orthodox folks and petition them to declare it Kosher. That pot has been stirred a few times.

I see your memory is as good as mine but many will wonder what the hell you are talking about. I have been sorely tempted to add this to my tag line but till then let me fill everyone in.
I am a Jewish woman who raises pigs. Why? Because they are tasty and are easily fit in well on my forested site. My concession to tradition is I don't serve it at the holidays.

Dale, did you just force me to hijack this thread? Shame on you.

A smack down eh??

Warning of Random Silliness - Spoof based on this commercial for Old Spice Bodywash



Hello Permies!

Look at Dale's 'thumbs up' stats:
-Total given : 76
--given in last 30 days: 22

Now look at mine:
-Total given : 1067
--given in last 30 days: 719

Now back to Dale's: 76
Now back to mine: 1067

Sadly, Dale isn't me. But if he stopped using lady's scented body wash he might get more thumbs up!

Look down, back up - where are you?

You're on Permies.com with the woman who gives out a lot of thumbs ups!

What's in your hand? Now back at me! I have it!

It's a Permie with lots of thumbs up goodness to share!

Look again - the thumbs up are now apples!

Anything is possible when you share thumbs up!


Go ahead Dale, take the apple....

Jennifer Wadsworth wrote:
Go ahead Dale, take the apple....

Jenn, that's so unlike you! And so worthy of a thumbs up!

Cj Verde wrote:Jenn, that's so unlike you! And so worthy of a thumbs up!

Yes....YES! You have fallen into my evil plan to garner more "thumbs ups"!

I had noticed the apple a while back and assumed it had something to do with Paul's plan for world dominance.

I thought it made sense, especially since Johnny Appleseed was an early pioneer or permaculture spreading the apple tree throughout the PNW.

I did not have apple envy until the Cider Press started and I appeared to be shut-out of contributing, just consuming.

Then I saw that Paul has troll-aphobia, which further convinced me that I wanted to be in the apple-corps as I think Paul has done the most to influence my perm-awareness, and I try and tell everyone hoping that the good comments will outweigh the work of trolls.

As a fly-fisherman, I never did like trolling.

Why is a thread this silly so funny?

Probably the fact that I just asked that question has a lot to do with my "apples" vs "thumbs up" stats...
very frequently trying to be helpful, at ridiculous length sometimes, but rarely striking home with that lovely brevity that is wit...

-Erica

Erica Wisner wrote:Why is a thread this silly so funny?

I think it's because we all have an "inner goofball". And we crave apples....

Everyone needs to have an inner goofball...

My timetable is such that, on a saturday morning, I get to coffee in the staffroom a little earlier than normal and end up chatting with one of my colleagues who I don't see so often. She is a very sensible lady, very well respected... previously a housemistress of one of the boarding houses... soon to be retiring.

Turns out that when we sit near each other our inner goofballs spark off each other and we usually end up in hysterics.

Free your inner child...

Erica --- I'm sure that many of your readers would gladly give you the thumbs up, if they knew where to find the button. Your lengthy posts fill the screen and require scrolling down. The technical nature often means that readers are taking notes, running for the dictionary or taking snack breaks.

If that button were at the bottom of the page, many better informed but fatigued readers would hit it.

Let's practice. Everybody --- hit the thumbs up here on this post and then practice scrolling up to give Erica one.

As a newbie help me to understand how to get apples? I wanted to post on a subject and it said I needed four apples and I have no apples so I couldn't post. I have lots of horse apples but that's
all

Hi Karen:

Apples are awarded on posts that are particularly informative or insightful. These can be of any length and may or may not include media such as pictures of a process or a video. Your best bet to get apples is to post frequently with "value added" posts. I post a lot here. Not all my posts are value added to be sure! I am a goofball. But sometimes I actually am insightful and thus glean an apple.

Oh - humor is also appreciated!

Alas, I tried to get road apples to count too - but it was a no go...

Pollinators are allowed to give away one apple per day. And pollinators are often selected based on the number of apples they have.

Volunteers are allowed to give away (I think) three apples per day.

Stewards can give away lots of apples per day - I can't remember the number.

Burra and I can give out unlimited apples.

There are some forums where you can post only if you have a certain number of apples.

We are currently talking about some ideas with software modifications where the apples will be of even greater benefit.

Just this morning i was talking to somebody about a possible high dollar gift to permies - and I thought i would redistribute it to the people with the most apples.

Thanks Jennifer..I'll try to get me some of those ther apples!

Dale Hodgins wrote:What about awarding rotten apples for bad behaviour or incredibly silly ideas. Or suppose a seemingly great idea is posted and awarded an apple followed by a barrage of evidence against its implementation. Big bites could be taken from the apple until only a core remains.

And we now have apple cores!

They look like this -

I would imagine there is a fine line between getting an apple core and post that needs editing to meet permies publishing standards. Could you elaborate on what distinguishes those two kinds of posts?

I think it might be wise to give an apple core for every post that is deleted.

Also you can get baskets of apples by creating a politically sensitive thread. The insightfulness can be a matter of personal opinion, but I prefer sticking to permaculture design theory.

If a member has earned the privilege to grant apples (or apple cores) has no bearing on whether I (or anyone) has to agree with them. IF one choose to focus their apples on esoteric and sensitive political subjects...so be it, and good for them in doing so...just like I tend to focus on the technical aspects of this forum and the staff here support me in doing so. Do with our apples what we will...but please...remember to always be nice and respect the views of others....no one is making us agree with them...just asking that we listen to them.

I for one lived inside of "Feminism" and all its many shades...as my Mother, Grandmother, and Aunts, crossed the gambit of this social constructs and beliefs. I grew up with open social structures as being the norm in both "Sisterhoods" and "Brotherhoods" which today we call Gay and Lesbian...for me this was but a norm of our family and cultural bearing. I was raised to know that only the aberrant and maladjusted of the human species persecuted others based on gender, orientation, race, or belief. Respect for the life before us is all that is important and compassion for any that we choose to love, or our family loved.

Respectfully,

j

Jay C. White Cloud wrote:I for one lived inside of "Feminism" and all its many shades...

Hey Jay, always good to hear from you! Well, I don't disagree with your middle ground philosophy. I like to see consistency and the "subject-which-must-not-be-named" is a matter that I see will never be resolved. It created so much toxic-gick that the apple became a weapon of protest and not for its originally intended purpose. It is why I since committed to stick to giving apples to permaculture design theory. Just my preference.

I would like to distiguish between giving apple cores to posts we don't agree with and those that violate Pauls' policies .

Dale Hodgins wrote:
What about awarding rotten apples for bad behaviour or incredibly silly ideas. Or suppose a seemingly great idea is posted and awarded an apple followed by a barrage of evidence against its implementation. Big bites could be taken from the apple until only a core remains.

I have posted a thread in the past against skeptics {like myself} debating a post within a thread . It seems to generate unwarranted debate . If we wish to debate a post contrary to the Ops' intent then we could choose to start a new thread - preferably in the Cider Press - discussing our contrary views on the topic . See this thread :

https://permies.com/forums/posts/list/33238#259534

Since this seems to be about the only thread dealing with Apples, I guess I'll post my request here: I'd like to know WHO gifted my post an Apple. It doesn't need to be public knowledge, but I'd like it if the Mod name was put into the email I just got informing me that my post earned an Apple.

Seems to my I got an apple recently but I didn't get an email thanking me for my quality post. Is that possible?

Cj Verde wrote:Seems to my I got an apple recently but I didn't get an email thanking me for my quality post. Is that possible?

Oh that's quite possible. Maybe it was awarded for something else, like reporting spam. Or maybe there a few bugs in the system. Or both...

Hi all, I got my first ever apple yesterday (woohoo) and I wondered if there is a way of telling who actually awarded me the apple? I apologize if I'm being stupid or have skipped over the part of this thread that tells me. I've had at least a glance around but couldn't see how to do this (if it is possible). Maybe it's deliberate. Anyway, I just thought it would be cool if I could find out. I'll survive and maybe even still thrive if there is not a way of doing this.

thanks,

Josh

It's deliberate, to keep you guessing!

And maybe also to protect individual staff members from being hassled about why they did or did not award apples.

paul wheaton wrote:I think it might be wise to give an apple core for every post that is deleted.

Still new here and found this thread fascinating. Apples, thumbs, rotten apples, and apple cores oh my.

I sort of think Apple cores could be a fun way to call out a post that gets to the "core" of permiculture ideas. Instead of seeing the core as a negative, see it as something wonderful and useful. Apple cores make for lovely compost, they have seeds that can make new apple trees, and the fact there is just a core left likely means someone just had a nice snack.

Just a thought, apple cores as a way to call attention to extra useful posts.

Ah the delightful mystery of not knowing. Exciting, tantalizing with just a frisson vulnerability. Like dirty-cup-csi.....but in a good way. Thanks so much for answering Burra. And so quickly. Much appreciated

I do most of my internetting from a mobile phone. Apple granting and many moderator tools can't be done without going to the non mobile site. The print is incredibly small and everything is more difficult. People only get one from me when I'm on a laptop.

The good news is that I'm safely past the mighty John Polk in the all time thumbs up.

Thank you for throwing apples at me kind stranger(s).

This is a great system, and I've discovered it helps motivate me to post better replies and to give even more thought before I press 'submit'.

It's tools like this and people like you that fills this forum with useful information and helpful advice.

It limits my ability to participate in the Cider Press conversations - don't know the purpose of that.

Kelly Mitchell wrote:It limits my ability to participate in the Cider Press conversations - don't know the purpose of that.

Here's a thread all about the cider press which might explain a few things.