roman shapla wrote:
Thanks everyone for the fascinating discussions!
I hope this isn't too off topic, but I'm trying to purchse one of Fukuoka's books (he gifted it to my wife and it was lost by the post office. I've spent the past 6 years trying to track it down)
I have found it online, but I can't read Japanese. If anyone could help me with this I would be forever indebted to you!
It is the cover page of the "Wara Ippon no Kakumai - Sokatsuhen", subtitled "Nendo Tango no Tabi", which he published after his travels to the US, Europe, Africa and India. The equivalent English publication is called "Recapitulation". Nevertheless, the latter is not a translation, since the contents of both book is quite different.
He buried wood (trees) in his orchard, in a manner similar to the "hugelcultur" that's all the rage here.
roman shapla wrote:
The yapparikenkou site is the only place I've seen it for sale, so that's why I'm looking for someone who can help me with the purchase.
i feel like its almost entirely based on a set process and the seed. If just one wheat plant survives, then take the seed from that one and next year there might be 5. If this process is continued you will eventually have a proper method for the way you do it in your climate.
of course i have no knowledge about this, but after reading a little on both fukuoka and plant breeding it seems logical.
for instance if i was to scatter my amaranth seed out there maybe i get nothing that can compete. but if i took the seed from a wild amaranth in the field and used that seed to spread around maybe i can let nature expand thte range of that plant.
better yet i could cross my domestic amaranth with the wild strain and really be getting somewhere.
sometimes i feel like the do-nothing term is a little misleading to us westerners, even with my background in buddhism i have a hard time not saying to myself all the things fukuoka actually did.
(orchards and harvesting, scattering seed balls, returning mulch, are all things that dont occur naturally)
so if my method uses breeding in a slightly more 'scientific' sense than nature (picking and choosing) im not concerned. what is important is the frame of mind. the idea that we can let nature do all the work of feeding us, by only telling it what we want, and working with it to get it. of course this borders on hinayana farming, which fukuoka speaks of in natural way... but you really can't speak about mahayana farming anyway.
i have often told people that i experiment with things, but i dont do it to get a scientific answer, i do it to get shit done. i dont isolate pieces when i experiment, i experiment to find a functional way. this way it doesnt take years to ever get anything done. i can throw in 5 variations at once if i think they all will help. if i only test one thing at a time it is wholly inpractical. i dont use the scientific method, i use the get shit done method. i believe that if i do this and i observe carefully i can learn much quicker than the scientist, who sweats over the most laborious details.
Hopefully, within a few seasons, I will be able to broadcast seed that is suited towards this climate and just worry about harvesting.
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
I think the Fukuoka method is great if you're in a climate like his part of Japan. Not much of the continental US is like that.
everyone keeps saying this but im not sure i agree. of course i have no evidence really other than speculation. but the mindset is nearly 100 percent the product. what fukuoka talks about is a freedom from humanity. its about putting the seed in the ground and having it grow by natures will. i am using wild edibles as my inspiration.
im trying to divorce myself from notions, particularly the notion that i have to grow crops.
my favorite way to learn is to accumulate masses of knowledge, then to try and forget it all and just do it. there is nothing more appealing than the fukuoka method, and while his 'exact method' is relative to his time and place, his 'ultimate method' has absolutely nothing to do with time and place
If you want to mow wild violets, you can. It doesn't seem to bother them much at all.
What method? There is no method!
we all agree the guys work was amazing. he had a lot of insight many could benefit from. thats all that really matters.
By copying I was referring to doing exactly what he did, rather than adapting them to their specific sites
H Ludi Tyler wrote:
I think one of the big ideas of Fukuoka grain growing is the permanent legume groundcover. I'm not sure what perennial groundcover would work in my locale with our current severe drought conditions. Something like 15 inches of rain per year.
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