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Well just in case anyone is interested, I started a Discord server. Open to suggestions for text or voice rooms for it. https://discord.gg/737ByX8
 
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Garret Wray wrote:Well just in case anyone is interested, I started a Discord server. Open to suggestions for text or voice rooms for it. https://discord.gg/737ByX8


Cool! Not my thing, but hopefully you'll get people wanting to chat real time!
 
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Hello Derek and Garret. Glad to have you stop by "the lounge".

Hey Pearl,
Yes. Dorothy Gale was indeed wearing a lavender and white dress when she asked, "Can you even dye my eyes to match my gown?" Hee,hee,hee!


 
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Hey, Loungers! It's 67 degrees F in the Valley: Spring Is Coming... If there's going to be a mass meeting in the new chat room just mentioned, let us all know...
 
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Hey Patrick! Yeah, we've got about 67° here in the Piedmont. Going to be mid/upper 70's today. I love the warmth, but I worry my trees will bud out and get frosted (again).

New chat room...that sounds like more than my weak internet signal could handle. I type a message now and cross my fingers when I hit send.
 
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Currently 29 degrees (at noon) in southern Missouri, and ice on the ground.
I was out working the other day, and I told a lilac bush "Stop budding! It's not spring yet! Go back to sleep!" I hope it listened to me
 
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Good morning, Loungers! Well, word has come that our landlord is selling the property, and we must relocate; so, the question arises: since we will not be here in the Fall, should we plant in the Spring? I must say "yes"; Permaculture is beyond the egoism of one harvester. Earth care!...
 
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Patrick: I would say yes too, care of the earth and land matters a LOT and the new owners may be of the same mind. I think if I were going to have to leave, I'd make my spring planting stuff that would either grow fast for me, or that was sturdy and permanent for long term benefit to the property. I hope the new people are going to keep up what you have done :)

In the end, it's more than just our lifetime, or a place we live for a while, we need to improve it all as we pass through it, so the world is maintained and helped by our actions. The quote we have all seen "A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" is one that needs to sink into more people's minds. When people improve the yard at a rental, or a short term house, when we do things to vacant lots, and spread wildflower seeds anyplace we can, we can only improve the planet.

"The tragedy of the commons is a term used in social science to describe a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action" (Wikipedia) The glory of the commons is when we all do our best to improve shared resource systems, or short term residences. I prefer to be part of the glory of the commons :)
 
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Pearl, all very true! Maybe it's time to build a wofati?!...
 
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Heh. I hate to think what the building codes weasel I'm warring with would think of that. He doesn't seem to like the concept "above code" a wofati would be violated SO fast...  
But! On the good side, at Habitat for Humanity yesterday we finally found bathroom sinks we liked (matched pair, new, never installed! 25.00 for the pair) and a whole pile of electrical bits and such! YAY!! I need to unload the truck today. We are paying full price for structural stuff, but everything else we are going as inexpensive as possible And I'm a Cheap Bitch (TM) and clever about inexpensive. I keep looking and picking up things here and there, assembling the bits that we need. I know what we need to do what we want, and I don't buy anything unless it's both the correct item and the correct price. It's a giant jigsaw puzzle, and I am really good at them :)
 
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I'm so grateful that we're coming up on Winter Solstice in the PNW.  I know it's the first day of winter and there will undoubtedly be lots of cold, wet, gray, (even miserable) days ahead, but it's also the shortest day and after that, there's a little more sunshine every day even if it's behind the clouds.  

I'm not complaining about the rain; it keeps things green and water is life.  And I love it here.  But still, after the holidays are over and February sets in and spring feels forever away, I remind myself.
 
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These short days don't bother me as much as the fact that the light outside is so dim during the day. Usually when it's darker outside than it is inside, I put the ducks away...but with the clouds and sun low in the horizon all day, it's darker outside than inside all day! It feels like sunset all day!
 
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Good Morning.

It is a balmy mid 30s here in Mitten of Michigan. Raining actually. Will be in the low 40s all week and sunny to cloudy I hear and read. So much to do. Had a job interview yesterday in town. Very adversarial. He actually questioned if a man my age can do the work. For real. I wasted half a day over this twit. Age is a very real problem when looking for work. Also recently i was asked in more than one job application my age, race and some other too personal stuff. That is the world we now live in.

I told my partner all my years of education are now worthless. Age is the next big discriminator. My partner tells me stories of older friends of his who being forced out of their jobs.

As the world burns everyone seems to be playing the fiddle.

Just put in a wood stove in my little house. Lol, a second set of hands was needed. My brother, who was also forced out of a job recently, helped. Good time spent with my brother. Just us old guys.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:These short days don't bother me as much as the fact that the light outside is so dim during the day. Usually when it's darker outside than it is inside, I put the ducks away...but with the clouds and sun low in the horizon all day, it's darker outside than inside all day! It feels like sunset all day!


Yes, so true!  The gloom...
 
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I agree with the grey days thing. I don't mind short days as much as grey days. I have the grow light on in the room I'm in (theoretically for the plants!) and I have no urge to go in another room. Gray and icky.
Days like this I miss the desert. And despise this rental that has no light at best. Days like this, this house is a cave.
 
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Daniel, I'm so sorry you're dealing with discrimination.  As someone working in HR, the illegalities of what you're describing just irks me.  But moreso because the labor market in PNW is so tight right now and we would love more people willing/able to work.  Some of our best workers are older and we know one of these days they will retire (one of our employees just left after 45 years) and we are happy for them but sad for us.  It really doesn't matter how old someone is if they can do the work.

On the weather note, we had some absolutely gorgeous crisp, sunny, blue skies weather today.  Got in a lunch time walk and I savored every step.
 
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