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Well just in case anyone is interested, I started a Discord server. Open to suggestions for text or voice rooms for it. https://discord.gg/737ByX8

Garret Wray wrote:Well just in case anyone is interested, I started a Discord server. Open to suggestions for text or voice rooms for it. https://discord.gg/737ByX8

Cool! Not my thing, but hopefully you'll get people wanting to chat real time!

Hello Derek and Garret. Glad to have you stop by "the lounge".

Hey Pearl,
Yes. Dorothy Gale was indeed wearing a lavender and white dress when she asked, "Can you even dye my eyes to match my gown?" Hee,hee,hee!

Hey, Loungers! It's 67 degrees F in the Valley: Spring Is Coming... If there's going to be a mass meeting in the new chat room just mentioned, let us all know...

Hey Patrick! Yeah, we've got about 67° here in the Piedmont. Going to be mid/upper 70's today. I love the warmth, but I worry my trees will bud out and get frosted (again).

New chat room...that sounds like more than my weak internet signal could handle. I type a message now and cross my fingers when I hit send.

Currently 29 degrees (at noon) in southern Missouri, and ice on the ground.
I was out working the other day, and I told a lilac bush "Stop budding! It's not spring yet! Go back to sleep!" I hope it listened to me

Good morning, Loungers! Well, word has come that our landlord is selling the property, and we must relocate; so, the question arises: since we will not be here in the Fall, should we plant in the Spring? I must say "yes"; Permaculture is beyond the egoism of one harvester. Earth care!...

Patrick: I would say yes too, care of the earth and land matters a LOT and the new owners may be of the same mind. I think if I were going to have to leave, I'd make my spring planting stuff that would either grow fast for me, or that was sturdy and permanent for long term benefit to the property. I hope the new people are going to keep up what you have done :)

In the end, it's more than just our lifetime, or a place we live for a while, we need to improve it all as we pass through it, so the world is maintained and helped by our actions. The quote we have all seen "A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in" is one that needs to sink into more people's minds. When people improve the yard at a rental, or a short term house, when we do things to vacant lots, and spread wildflower seeds anyplace we can, we can only improve the planet.

"The tragedy of the commons is a term used in social science to describe a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action" (Wikipedia) The glory of the commons is when we all do our best to improve shared resource systems, or short term residences. I prefer to be part of the glory of the commons :)

Pearl, all very true! Maybe it's time to build a wofati?!...

Heh. I hate to think what the building codes weasel I'm warring with would think of that. He doesn't seem to like the concept "above code" a wofati would be violated SO fast...  
But! On the good side, at Habitat for Humanity yesterday we finally found bathroom sinks we liked (matched pair, new, never installed! 25.00 for the pair) and a whole pile of electrical bits and such! YAY!! I need to unload the truck today. We are paying full price for structural stuff, but everything else we are going as inexpensive as possible And I'm a Cheap Bitch (TM) and clever about inexpensive. I keep looking and picking up things here and there, assembling the bits that we need. I know what we need to do what we want, and I don't buy anything unless it's both the correct item and the correct price. It's a giant jigsaw puzzle, and I am really good at them :)

I'm so grateful that we're coming up on Winter Solstice in the PNW.  I know it's the first day of winter and there will undoubtedly be lots of cold, wet, gray, (even miserable) days ahead, but it's also the shortest day and after that, there's a little more sunshine every day even if it's behind the clouds.  

I'm not complaining about the rain; it keeps things green and water is life.  And I love it here.  But still, after the holidays are over and February sets in and spring feels forever away, I remind myself.

These short days don't bother me as much as the fact that the light outside is so dim during the day. Usually when it's darker outside than it is inside, I put the ducks away...but with the clouds and sun low in the horizon all day, it's darker outside than inside all day! It feels like sunset all day!

Good Morning.

It is a balmy mid 30s here in Mitten of Michigan. Raining actually. Will be in the low 40s all week and sunny to cloudy I hear and read. So much to do. Had a job interview yesterday in town. Very adversarial. He actually questioned if a man my age can do the work. For real. I wasted half a day over this twit. Age is a very real problem when looking for work. Also recently i was asked in more than one job application my age, race and some other too personal stuff. That is the world we now live in.

I told my partner all my years of education are now worthless. Age is the next big discriminator. My partner tells me stories of older friends of his who being forced out of their jobs.

As the world burns everyone seems to be playing the fiddle.

Just put in a wood stove in my little house. Lol, a second set of hands was needed. My brother, who was also forced out of a job recently, helped. Good time spent with my brother. Just us old guys.

Nicole Alderman wrote:These short days don't bother me as much as the fact that the light outside is so dim during the day. Usually when it's darker outside than it is inside, I put the ducks away...but with the clouds and sun low in the horizon all day, it's darker outside than inside all day! It feels like sunset all day!

Yes, so true!  The gloom...

I agree with the grey days thing. I don't mind short days as much as grey days. I have the grow light on in the room I'm in (theoretically for the plants!) and I have no urge to go in another room. Gray and icky.
Days like this I miss the desert. And despise this rental that has no light at best. Days like this, this house is a cave.

Daniel, I'm so sorry you're dealing with discrimination.  As someone working in HR, the illegalities of what you're describing just irks me.  But moreso because the labor market in PNW is so tight right now and we would love more people willing/able to work.  Some of our best workers are older and we know one of these days they will retire (one of our employees just left after 45 years) and we are happy for them but sad for us.  It really doesn't matter how old someone is if they can do the work.

On the weather note, we had some absolutely gorgeous crisp, sunny, blue skies weather today.  Got in a lunch time walk and I savored every step.

Howdy,
It was 1968 or 1969, my dad had moved us from Fresno Calif, to St. Louis Missouri. I was in high school and the local fm station said, "Janis joplin and big brother" will be coming into stl airport, so get down and meet them. A few of us skipped school. There were only about 60 fans/hippies and we did get to walk right up and talk to em. Wasn't enough room in the limo for all the members, so my friend had a International Travelall(?) and we got to give 2 members of the band a tour of downtown stl, of which I had never seen. We broke down, needed mechanic and Sam Houston Andrew is filming a bunch on his hand held home movie camera. It just got better after that. Went to an evening concert, they tried to shut JJ and Big Bro down because of over time. There was a small riot and big brother played in Forest Park the next day. We were there and Janis came up and starting talking to us, remembered us from the day before, it was so cool! So, I've called this place, where I live,  "Peace of my Heart, Acres".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIHny7QEf7o

  ~Randal, that is an amazing story!!!~What a wonderful experience!!!~I miss the old days a lot~My forest is perfect for retreating from this new world~Today is America's birthday, and ive been loving the rain that has been needed for several years~It has brought out a bunch of poisonous Bufu frogs, so ive been trying to keep my cats from them~Im gonna make a Flag Pie for 4th of July, today~Vegan & Raw, Freedom For All!!!~☆~

Ken Peavey wrote:Ok, I'll start this thing off with a Social Lounge.  The only rule is Be Nice.  you don't have to be single/straight/tall/mentally stable/or a member of any demographic group.  Think of this thread as a virtual gathering place for a cup of coffee, a light cocktail or tequila shots.

If posting a description of yourself in front of the whole world brings unease, you can get involved in here and get your feet wet first.  Post whatever you like, tell stories or jokes, ask questions of others.  There's no pressure or competition so you don't have to show off or put on a show.  Relax, sit down, be yourself, have a good time. 

How was your day?  Whats on your mind?  Tell us about that time at the concert with that old fiend of yours from wherever.    Sports? Movies? Recipes? Politics?  Religion? Pets? Job? Hobbies?  Everyone has their Thing, whatever that may be.  Tell us about it.  Go ahead and blog. 

Not looking for romance?  Not single?  Not interested?  Not a problem.  You can still interact with all the fine people.  The more, the merrier.

Glad to stumble upon this thread.

Sometimes it's a little weird being a single (ish) person out here in the real world.

Hey, a post in here!
I'll make a pot of tea and find some good bread to serve :D
I made some the other day that's whole wheat with raisins, that goes well with tea.

And you aren't the only one single around here, lot of us simply don't care for the singles section. Not my thing.

And if you think it's weird being single where you are, when you are 55+ year old female, either you don't exist as far as men are concerned, or they want a mother/housewife. The women either pity you or see you as competition.
I often just don't exist to the rest of the world. There's not a niche for me in their head.
:D

Pearl Sutton wrote:Hey, a post in here!
I'll make a pot of tea and find some good bread to serve :D
I made some the other day that's whole wheat with raisins, that goes well with tea.

And you aren't the only one single around here, lot of us simply don't care for the singles section. Not my thing.

And if you think it's weird being single where you are, when you are 55+ year old female, either you don't exist as far as men are concerned, or they want a mother/housewife. The women either pity you or see you as competition.
I often just don't exist to the rest of the world. There's not a niche for me in their head.
:D

What part of the country do you live?

And what sort of niche would have need to exist in order for you to fit into someone's head?

Pearl Sutton wrote:Hey, a post in here!
I'll make a pot of tea and find some good bread to serve :D
I made some the other day that's whole wheat with raisins, that goes well with tea.

And you aren't the only one single around here, lot of us simply don't care for the singles section. Not my thing.

And if you think it's weird being single where you are, when you are 55+ year old female, either you don't exist as far as men are concerned, or they want a mother/housewife. The women either pity you or see you as competition.
I often just don't exist to the rest of the world. There's not a niche for me in their head.
:D

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Hi Pearl, As a soon to be 55 year old male,[birthday is 3 weeks] widower of 4.5 years I find the same problem that you have. I also am not the online personal site type. I live in central New Hampshire . Own my own homestead with no mortgage and debt free. But it seems like I don't fit it with the modern women in my age group. They seem to like the immature idiots , liars and abusive cheaters. I feel your frustration its not just you.

Hi Jon! Welcome to permies :D
I learned early on that I'm too atypical for the quick words that people use online, and whatever I say ends up inaccurate. I use the term "multifaceted" for myself, and people either don't understand the word, or think they know what it means: Ok, she gardens AND cooks AND cans, I can accept that... Then find out it means: And fixes the tractor, and builds things, and dyes fabric, and can paint anything, and tears apart appliances, and and and... and they overload when they hit the whole mess.

Part of the problem with any kind of dating is how do you find a person you might mesh with when the shape of your puzzle piece in the world is seriously irregular? I can say "that person has this point, and that one has this point" but finding one that hooks better, that's complex. And I have learned that "Of course I can hook with all that" tends to be very inaccurate, due to not knowing what the shape actually is.

:D

Pearl Sutton wrote:Hi Jon! Welcome to permies :D
I learned early on that I'm too atypical for the quick words that people use online, and whatever I say ends up inaccurate. I use the term "multifaceted" for myself
:D

That’s a good description though…. I think words don’t work well online… except for the shallow waters.  I think sometimes we are too specific in some respects. Areas another creates discomfort for us allows us to grow…. Wrote this today in response to ones post on being mature in another “ghosting” them.

Evolution

So many facets to walk through
In athletics it is no pain no gain
For the psyche it’s also true
Flush your worries down the drain

Those times when you feel discomfort
It may be best to sit with them
Embracing the pain with a contort
They really won’t cause you to cough up pleghm

Why does another’s thoughts trouble you
You may find that there is an internal revolution
Think of black as white to help you see through
Your understanding may provide an evolution

Ybul

From my perspective it’s not just on the singles front it’s even in speaking with people about maybe joining forces to make the work load lighter.

I think multifaceted would probably be easier than where I’d need to take the word.  I’m multidimensional, and like you people would think I fix things, make cheese, write poems and they’d be half right. The other dimensions really relate to the spiritual beliefs I have and have experienced. Getting another to ponder a sustainable life, is difficult and toss in my thoughts on hermetic wisdom, sacred geometry, and actually entering into oneness with everything.

You’d get the side eye there from 99.99999% of the population….. however events will unfold to bring the right person to you if that’s what you want. Might even bring that person to you because of soul contracts you made and then you actually that one that seems to have been directed to you thinks your nuts.

But they may also not be ready to work through their spiritual issues

Thanks, Pearl and John for the insight. It definitely gives me something to think about. I really like the puzzle piece analogy.