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Anyone else noticed that the days are getting a little shorter. I was having to wait till well after 9pm to go out and check the night sky, now I can start around 8:30pm.
Also the lighin bugs are almost all gone, the nesting Northern Mocking birds are also gone and the one sure sign here in this part of Virginia - school buses are back.
Public schools started this week and the private schools in the area start next week.

We had a few showers today and a fair rain late this afternoon, hoping for a good show for the leaves this year.

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Shhhhh!

Don't make winter come back so fast!

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I'm not rushing any change of season. I am glad to see the end of those 100f+ days. Ready or not fall begins next month.

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Stop it. Just. Stop it. I haven't gotten a single fleece into suint, yet. I'm not ready, dangit! (I really and truly did not move far enough south...)

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Seems like we had an early start to summer and now an early start to fall out here in SW Ohio. My driveway is already starting to collect leaves from my neighbors tree. On top of the timing being odd, the cloud cover throughout summer made for a different growing season. I had collards and kales going gang busters until around two weeks ago. My peppers are just starting to come in. Strange timing all around. Fall in August? Maybe the seasons are shifting along with the USDA Hardiness Zones. All I know is it is always helpful to be flexible and adaptable, in any situation.

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OK guys, out of respect for you, not another word from me. But that will not stop it from becoming true!!!

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now I can start around 8:30pm.

Another month and I'll be there. So looking forward to finishing my day before midnight. My day starts at 4am year 'round so summer really sucks sometimes.

And then in a few more months, I'll be going out to sing the lullaby to the chooks at 2:30 pm. That also sucks a bit because it means I have so little time out of the house during the day.

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I saw some geese flying in a big V yesterday heading south. Time to transition from summer stuff to fall stuff. I bought a bunch of new raccoon traps that I need to prep, no more planting stuff in the garden, need to caulk a bunch of windows, etc etc etc etc.

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We're fortunate here, autumn doesn't really start here until early Oct. generally, and even then its becoming more common to have a week of Indian Summer and get away with swimming in the river one more time.

Here Sept. is its own season which is called latesummer. Some autumn things are starting to happen, but its still warm enough to play in the rivers, so in my mind its still a type of summer, and it can also still get really warm.

Summertime, ordinary or latesummer, is my favourite time of year so I'm never in a hurry for autumn to come, no thank you. It seems like lots of people are though.

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OK, OK, I know what I said. Just one thing more on the subject. While working in the back yard this morning, raking the sticks and leaf clumps and checking for yellow jackets (my yard guy does not do well with bee stings, ie swelling face, trip to the ER, E pens in his truck). I did the Henny-Penny dance a few times from the falling acorns. (with my thinning top cover, those things hurt a little!).

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I found a red leaf the other day, the royal we is not amused. But its going to be triple digit temperatures this weekend, so its definitely not fall yet here. Other people do get fall sooner though so no doubt its coming for you.

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I asked Google for the definition of fall.

I got a lot of variations:

— A fall is defined as an event which results in a person coming to rest inadvertently on the ground or floor or other lower level

Is it 'autumn' or 'fall'?
Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › grammar › autumn...
Autumn and fall are used interchangeably as words for the season between summer and winter. Both are used in American and British English.

I am not sure that we are ever going to have Fall or Autumn ever again ....

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39F yesterday morning, warmer at 45F this morning.
The next few days are the upper 80s, but after that, it looks like the 70s or less.
They frosted yesterday morning in the white pine drainage a few miles east of here.
In two weeks we move the Shorty Core into the cabin and give her a proper bell to wear.
It feels like just in time to start burning!

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Thomas, it does sound like the core placement will be just in time.

Anne, a medico person once told me that if any part of your patooty should come in contact with the floor or ground that is a Fall! So I sometimes resemble your post, mostly outdoors these days when I don't use a cane!

The acorns are still falling as well as some hickory nuts. The sycamore trees are starting to show some color change, the poplar trees will soon start to change too.

It was long sleeve temps last week, back into the high 90's this week. Kinda hard to guess about the weather these days.

Peace

PS maybe I should have used "autumn" as a title?

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Sassafras and mulberry leaves are turning color. Eastern cottonwood leaves are gleefully freeing themselves of their duty of keeping the tree alive.

These things tell me I have limited time to put in the winter garden. Sigh. I blame you Deane.

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I don't know about autumn, it seems like we missed summer here this year....However the nights are drawing in, I'm racing the mice to the peas as they ripen and thinking about digging my tatties early, leaves are starting to turn colour and....fall. We're finally forecast a couple of days without rain, and might reach 17 degrees Celsius (62 Fahrenheit) this weekend. Whoopie doo!

I don't think I'd ever us 'fall' as a word for autumn (except here on Permies), so I'm surprised to find it described as used in British English.

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Agree with Nancy about "fall" not being used in British English to refer to the time of year, apart from being what leaves do in Autumn. I've never heard anyone here apart from Americans (or second-language English speakers who've learned English from American courses) refer to the season as fall.

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Joylynn, thank you, you've given me a nice gift, you made me smile. It would be an honor to accept the blame, from you, for the approaching change of season.

I'm kinda old and somewhat worn down, but still tough as an old tree root, sooooo bring it on, doesn't matter what, critters broke out, bumped your knee, paper cut. I'm here to carry the blame!

Again thanks for the smiles, I hope that everyone will be safe this long weekend.

Peace

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Even though I'm gardening like mad, my winter preps have started.

Sticky note in bathroom mirror: 32 days to freeze-up. (The days are in pencil, so it's a daily countdown.) At that approximate point, anything to do with caulking or paint is pretty dicey. Maintenance things like shocking the well and septic fixes also.

The other dicey stuff is resources I will need in early spring: weed tea, partially composted wood chips, and mostly finished compost. Once the winter cold hits, all of this stops until late April. Tick-tock.

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Oh! There's actually liquid drops falling from the sky! Yes, I went out in it to seed some mustard and turnips in recently cleared spots. Some spots are supposed to be lawn. Scoff! No more! Grow more food!

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Nancy Reading wrote:I don't know about autumn, it seems like we missed summer here this year....However the nights are drawing in, I'm racing the mice to the peas as they ripen and thinking about digging my tatties early, leaves are starting to turn colour and....fall. We're finally forecast a couple of days without rain, and might reach 17 degrees Celsius (62 Fahrenheit) this weekend. Whoopie doo!

It's not been a great Spring and Summer in central England, but we have had a few summery days. I am not sure our butternut squash are going to have time to flower, as summer was so late arriving ..

Good year here for soft fruit, though!

Nancy Reading wrote:
I don't think I'd ever use 'fall' as a word for autumn (except here on Permies), so I'm surprised to find it described as used in British English.

Etymology online suggests it fell (!) out of fashion in England:

"The sense of "autumn" (now only in U.S. but formerly common in England) is by 1660s, short for _fall of the leaf_ (1540s)."
https://www.etymonline.com/word/fall

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