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bob day wrote: If anyone has seen these documents, I'd love to hear about them.
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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein
Invasive plants are Earth's way of insisting we notice her medicines. Stephen Herrod Buhner
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Invasive plants are Earth's way of insisting we notice her medicines. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Everyone learns what works by learning what doesn't work. Stephen Herrod Buhner
Jeremy Baker wrote:Bumping this thread.
Bob, how has you investigation into a permaculture aligned land conservancy been going? I’ve only just begun doing my homework on land trust conservancies but have saved a couple nuggets of information from the past. A friend joined OPAL (Orcas People and Land a community land trust) years ago and it worked for him to secure a nice new affordable home for his family on a expensive island with skyrocketing prices. He holds a 99 year residential lease from the OPAL trust. Well, the members of OPAL told me there was a grant for $50,000 to have lawyers create the bylaws for the community. I have copies in my storage. They told me one of the stipulations for the big grant was that the bylaws were to be made available to other forming land trusts. Might these be of use? Or perhaps other bylaws are available. Are bylaws essentially the same as covenants mentioned earlier in this thread? I’m interested in the 99 year lease concept from a trust to do permaculture. We can even fund the trust to purchase the land and facilities. I’m just not sure where to start or how to go absolutely it. Maybe there’s another way to do it. I was offered funds that have to go to a charity. Should I start a new thread?? Thanks.
Charles E. Young wrote:Many of us are or have probably been members of the Nature Conservancy.
They are very effective at land preservation and trust and have this down to a science. they welcome all levels of community, government and industry coming to them to settle ecological and land use differences. they set up diverse land trust, many different types, most all with local leadership in the are of compliance. I bet they would extend their trust services to those moving this direction. In the past they did not have to be a beneficiary of the property being entrusted. they also know about managing a trust and the difficulties that arise from poor writing and planning. We could learn much from them, not work as hard as we might, not make a lot of mistakes and get a good start as a result.
Well you get the idea. Would they mentor this direction by this new Perma-culture Trust, as we are a sister organization? Board members could reach out and see.
bob day wrote:Here's the steps Bill talks about in the 1983 class--remember this is Austrailia 40 years ago, so laws and procedures may be different.--probably are different
1-start an association and register it- no great paperwork involved, should be near free-- if you can register one in your state/county- the association involves no real commitment on the part of members, just establishing a community of like minded people. The association will help to guide the offerings of your trust to the community and also act as a labor pool. Permaculture lectures/presentations, setting up gardens in private yards, reduce lawns, increase trees and diversity, all sorts of community projects that can get you firmly established so any extra legal paperwork you do has real world support, not just idle dreams. You may not need to register the association to legally obtain the non profit status, but if your state has that sort of category do it, even if it's not absolutely required.
2. find a couple friends to be on the board of directors--people you trust- number may differ according to state laws. do the minimum necessary -draw up a mission statement-remember this is a non profit, so emphasis on giving to the public good. get a treasurer and secretary, keep scrupulous financial records that will be monitored closely by the state- assuming you achieve non profit status. Those by laws you have <Jessie> might be useful, if you can, send a copy to me with an email attachment.
3. Set up a for profit company to handle all enterprises and take all risks. this company off sets it's profit taxes by donating earnings back to the non profit.
vehicles are risks so should be owned by either individuals or the for profit company. keep non profit assets out of harms way. your profit company should always carry as little material wealth as possible so rent furniture, office space, etc from the non profit, any attacks on the for profit company will come up mostly empty handed.
real estate - houses- best in the non profit section.
Remember that non profit status means people can donate land for a tax write off, so if you don't already have land, don't worry, sincerity and good works will show a way.
Permaculture Research institutes are always a good way to go, establishing a church has extra tax benefits. I really have come to appreciate Nature as a religion, that deepens the more I experience the wonder and order of the natural world. I understand there are a couple of these sorts of churches in different places, but have not yet found an established one--just latching on to that paperwork might also expedite your process.
remember, we really are in this to advance the cause of sustainability which is in the public good, so this is not just a scam. It is however a good tool that has been misused consistently by bigger players for questionable ends.
Bill talks about these techniques as if they are weapons of war being consistently used against the normal working class, so he talks about arming ourselves with the same tools only for legitimate public welfare.
See if there are any lawyers who may sympathize with this cause and help pro bono or maybe reduced rates
and I decided long ago the Nature Conservancy was really almost a scam, what with dues and such. It does promote growing the number of acres of conserved land, but many of us will have better progress/more direct control running our own trusts
One final thought, The time and geography of Bills instructions are likely worlds away from current requirements, There will likely be some basic, and very important procedures that must be consistently adhered to, A lawyer from your area will likely be your best insurance when setting up any trusts, it probably wouldn't hurt to plan on a professional tax accountant for at least a couple years just to make sure you're doing it right. This can be a useful way to maximize your resources and organize your community if it's done right,
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