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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEM curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Gardening.

Annual homestead gardens give us many of the foods we're used to eating.  Permaculture gardens tend to feature perennial plants that require less maintenance.  The best time to plant an apple tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now.  Let's plant some trees!



Planting bare root trees:


Planting bare root and potted trees:


Minimum requirements:
  - Plant 2 trees of different species
  - Bare root, container, balled and burlaped or dug up yourself
  - At least 1" of stem growth (lengthwise)
  - At least the diameter of a pencil to begin with

Provide proof of the following as pictures or video (<2 min):
  - The area prior to planting
  - The two trees prior to planting
  - The holes dug
  - Freshly planted trees
  - Each tree with clearly at least 1" of new stem
        - From same angles as earlier pics/video to prove it's the same trees
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A while back I planted a few mulberry trees. Now that they've grown I'm sharing two for this BB.
First tree


Second Tree

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Mike Haasl approved this submission.
Note: Congratulations on completing the first PEM BB!

 
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Edge case submission
My daughter and I have planted >50 trees this year.  Here are two of them.

1.  Georgia Peach, picked up at the local grocery store (Food Lion) for $17.99 .

2.  Red Oak, started from an acorn gathered last fall and stored in wet sand in the fridge til last month.


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Peach tree, fresh from the grocery.
Peach tree, fresh from the grocery.
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Gonna plant it right here.
Gonna plant it right here.
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Hole dug.
Hole dug.
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Tree lowered into hole with some added compost.
Tree lowered into hole with some added compost.
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Planting finished, topped off with more compost.
Planting finished, topped off with more compost.
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38 inches.
38 inches.
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As of about an hour ago, just over 42 inches.
As of about an hour ago, just over 42 inches.
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Stratified acorns placed atop soil.
Stratified acorns placed atop soil.
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Under grow lights. You can see some acorns in the red cups starting to pop.
Under grow lights. You can see some acorns in the red cups starting to pop.
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Hardened off, ready to plant.
Hardened off, ready to plant.
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Gonna plant one right here.
Gonna plant one right here.
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Hole dug.
Hole dug.
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Tree lowered, filling with our "soil" (clay) with some compost to lighten things a bit.
Tree lowered, filling with our "soil" (clay) with some compost to lighten things a bit.
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More clay & compost.
More clay & compost.
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Planting finished, topped off with more compost.
Planting finished, topped off with more compost.
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Significantly larger than when it started.
Significantly larger than when it started.
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Note: Let's get a pic of the oak after it's grown 1" in the ground.  That 1" requirement is to show that it is growing post-transplant.

 
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I am wondering if transplanting rooted suckers from my Chokecherry tree would count for this BB?  We normally just keep them mowed down but have been talking about possibly moving a few of the suckers to a better location....  
 
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That sounds like it would count!
 
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Next round of clarity-seeking!

What does “different” mean when you say two different trees? I would have assumed two different species or something but the only thus far success is two mulberries.

Do you intend that they be food sources? Or any tree? Or trees with “permaculture value”?

And let’s revisit the girth of the tree. The first two pictures below are the widest-trunked apples that I have ready to go into the ground (out of 33 grown from seed last year) then there’s a pussy willow. Then there’s a lilac (which Wikipedia confirms is a tree…I wasn’t sure). How do you feel about the widths of these trees as demonstrated by the pencil and their validity for your BB? I think that each of them is essentially as wide as a pencil at the very bottom or bigger. I also have an avocado that is much bigger (but it would only survive until September or something so it seems like a waste).

Do some subset of what I’m talking about fit with your intent?
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apple #1
apple #1
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apple #2
apple #2
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Pussy willow
Pussy willow
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Lilac
Lilac
 
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Good questions Christopher!  I changed it to be different species.  I don't care that much about their permaculture value, I just want to see that a person can tend a new tree.  Even if it's a spruce...  Pencil-wise I think all of yours are good except for the last one.
 
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