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Better Wood Heat: DIY Rocket Mass Heater Videos kickstarter

 
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I'm not sure, but I think what is being asked is "In the future, please don't offer low prices.  We get confused with low prices.  Only offer extremely high prices with extremely massive files. If you don't do that, we might choose the low priced option thinking that we get the high price stuff. Even though all the rest of the industry is set up this way."

I thought it was important to find a way to get this information to people for a much lower price point.   I also thought it was important to get this information to people in a way that it could fit easily on already crowded phones and tablets.  DVD1 at SD is 0.665g.  at 1080p it is 14.3g.  If a person has it on a phone or tablet, they can watch it where they are building.  It can be a bit of a reference.  I thought we did an excellent job of making a video that is sharp and excellent for SD.   And the people that want to can spend a little more and get it in SD, HD and DVD - all three.  

I'm told that my phone is one of the fanciest phones you can get.  The samsung note 4.   It comes with 32g of storage.  Maybe only half of that is available to me for stuff.   So 16g.  So I could store one video and have no room left over for anything else - or I can store all four videos and have plenty of room left over.  

My internet is a bit dodgy, so on the three times I have rented a movie over the internet, I did it with "SD" because I think SD is great and I don't want the movie to get buffered over and over.  

I understand that some people want nothing but "HD" or "full HD" or "4K" because that's what they are into.  The industry tell them that it is "the best" and charges a premium price.  Maybe they have hundreds of terabytes of storage, and google fiber for internet.  If that's the case, I'm surprised that when looking over the kickstarter options, they did not select HD.  

The resolution of the new digital download stuff is identical to the resolution of the digital download of the first set.  And I think the video and audio quality of the new set is much higher.  

It seems that a few people think that if they badger me, then they can have the higher priced option at a lower price.   And I think you totally can have that .... in a few years.  For now, I choose to respect the people that read the options and understood the options.   I think the SD stuff serves a very important niche:  excellent vids that fit in a small space for a low price.  

Once again, screen shots from the SD digital downloads:





I might be the only one that has this opinion:  I think the SD stuff is sharp and looks excellent.  HD adds nothing.  And I think the videos are information rich and of excellent quality.  I think we did a damn good job.  Getting DVD1 to be so damn sharp while being 2 hours and 21 minutes long and to fit it all into 665 megs is amazing!  I think we made this stuff relatively entertaining - some how to videos are painfully dull - but I think we keep the viewer engaged.  And to offer this at such a LOW price!  So, critically important information about rocket mass heaters, presented in an awesome fashion, for a low price, fits on a cell phone well - poised to CHANGE THE WORLD!  I am probably the only person that thinks that this was a massive win!  Yay!  Five out of five stars!  10 out of 10 acorns!  Yay!  Especially the digital download!

For each complaint about the resolution, I think it has everything to do with the person complaining and nothing to do with the product.  After all, HD has always been an option for a higher price.
 
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Part of my day job now involves digital. Mostly photoshop of still digital images, though I do shoot video too. Both for personal reasons, for our own DIY (a carb teardown gets filmed so it can be put back together, etc). I also do some work for clients, including remote photoshoots, producing merchandise for them with their images, etc. I currently have an iPhone 6S+, the larger screen is nice to be able to see stuff, and it shoots better pictures than my current digital Olympus, which was quite a camera when it came out. I ordered an iPhone 7 pro, which will now be the 7S... as it is a super handy field data logger and between that and using it for digital image clients... until I can afford the camera of my dreams (let's just say it'd be worth more than my house with all the lenses).

Coming back to RMH's. I purchased the "Rocket Mass Heaters: Superefficient Woodstoves YOU Can Build" by Ianto Evans and Leslie Jacobs. I have also the 6" (currently free, thank you Ernie and Erika Weisner) and the 8" plans. I made plans to build three, one in my house, one in my shop, and one in my massive walipini. Walipini is two years behind schedule, and will be an aboveground earthbag with massive terraced back berm (water table issues on the only land I can install it on). Still locating some stuff for it.

Hearing these DVD's were going to come out, I waited on starting on my RMH's. I did collect steel barrels, pipes, and just had a trucker friend deadhead my 200 plus firebrick from the factory to here. Now I would have given a few body parts to come to that innovators workshop last year (2016 release DVD#4).

With reading the book, studying the plans, and now having the information in all 8 dvd's, the past weekend spouse and I set up a proof of concept with stacking bricks and all that and trying a test fire and it worked.

The quality of playback of these virtual DVD's. I purchased SD digital download, the least expensive and about the fastest way to get the set. After everyone went back and forth on here, I tried downloading to various things and playing back. On my 42" tv, it's kind of crappy, mudded out. But most youtube does that too, played back to that TV. It's a Hannspree and the best brand you never heard about... they mostly just make monitors now. On a 23" monitor, pretty fair. On my laptop with a 17.3 monitor, looks okay at full screen and at the default on one player (about 70% of screen) looks pretty good. On a 10.1 tablet, looks good. Put to my iPhone 6S+, looks very good.

I am also taking correspondence/internet classes to repair sewing machines. Those cost $50-100 an hour in HD but the detail is vital. The more expensive I also receive digital book (e-book for kindle) and a link to some reference material online materials. I pay a lot more for the HD format and I know that I am, because that detail is vital.

In these RMH videos, you see enough to make it happen. In SD. If you are displaying it on a mobile type device (to have it in the field beside you) it looks very good. I would say that I prefer the laptop or tablet display, though I can put them all on my phone if I needed to (yes it's a 128 ). If you need more detail, download the free 6" plans and that will help you a lot. I repair vehicles like this, the Haynes, the engine, and my hands to braille some of it as the picture I'm looking at is not the orientation I will find that bit in and I can't even see it. Familiarize yourself, avail yourself of the free plan. You don't have to build THAT one but it is handy when learning how one goes together.

The DVD set is well done, someone cared about how it went together and the content. In the format it is released in, and the intended use thereof, its perfect. I appreciated the price point as well, I think #1 of the 2016 set is worth what I paid for all eight. My next favorite is the innovator's workshop, #4 of the 2016 set.

When the content was offered, it was made plain what the formats were, that were being offered. SD and HD take radically different amounts of space, and that costs, the more data to be juggled the more it costs. It's not free. I have done my own internet access (aka I am my own ISP I pay for gateway and have my own in-house server) since the late 90's. Everything costs. I commend Paul and the crew for managing to produce a content rich offering, well done, and in different formats at different prices. When I selected SD I didn't expect the electronics level detail (see repairing sewing machines) but I expected to be able to see what's going on when I needed to see what is going on. In that respect, yes, there's enough detail in the format I am using to view it and use it.

I have not seen the HD version personally but from average grabs that have been posted, it looks close enough that the HD would only matter if you're blowing it up. When I take stills I tend to go for as high a resolution as I can get in case I'm clipping a small part of it and have to blow it up... and it's easier to throw away detail from that image to make something fit download/upload constraints--one piece of proprietary layout software I lease, has a file size maximum so I often have to resize to make something load in.

In this case, for most of us, going to go out there and play with firebrick, cob, and pieces of metal, the SD format material should work. Only thing I wish is I could reach out and touch the cob to know what it should feel like when it's ready, and have someone supervise the first time I try to split a firebrick.

SD will work for most everyone, and also, the price is very bleeping good for the information shared. Why do you think most of your youtube has adverts imbedded? To pay for handling the data file. Paul and crew did well to hold a line on everything. If you don't like the SD he is allowing an upgrade, and yes you have to pay for it because there's more costs involved with handling the format and delivering it. Just like the physical DVD has a lot more overhead and costs more.

I'm defending this because I believed in the whole concept, and I am appreciating the fruits of all that hard work and the monies everyone kicked in to make it happen. Without all that work and the original backing there wouldn't be any content. Data costs. I'm reminded of that every month when I pay for the phones and the internet access; the data transfer traffic; everything. This is not amateur video shot with a dubious smartphone on the fly and haphazard editing. This is a carefully documented set of how-to with careful shooting, editing, and content rich. Retry playing your purchase in the intended format and you will find it works well. Don't be afraid to get other aids, such as the free 6" plans, to peruse as well. It all goes hand in hand with a wonderful pool of reference material, that will go a long way in helping me do what I need to do.
 
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I have been watching and enjoying the videos. Great job everyone! Thanks for all the hard work. My question tonight, after reviewing DVD # 3 is where can i buy the ceramic fiber tube to use on my project?
 
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Scott Werner wrote:I have been watching and enjoying the videos. Great job everyone! Thanks for all the hard work. My question tonight, after reviewing DVD # 3 is where can i buy the ceramic fiber tube to use on my project?



We got ours from "western industrial".

I did see a much better deal here https://permies.com/t/53413/rocket-stoves/Inexpensive-vacuum-formed-ceramic-fiber
 
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I am watching the downloads on my TV via my laptop.  Looks great to me.
 
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The physical dvds arrived last night.  We will be packaging them today and will hopefully get most of them to the post office on monday.
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YAY!!! Acorns, oak leaf clusters, and a few good apples, cored and stuffed and baked to go with that, Paul! Mazel Tov.
 
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4-DVD sets are now boxed and labeled.

Single dvds are boxed and labeled.

8-DVD sets are now getting boxed and labeled.

Thanks to jocelyn, fred, bill and laurie for their help today with this giant chore!
 
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I'd buy you all a cold one and bring pizza if I was closer. Congrats!!!
 
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YESSS! I just finished watching the streamable versions and I can't wait to force ....ahem.... let  my friends and family watch these profoundly informative videos.
 
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My spouse is going through them in great detail, he is hoping we can modify one to do foundry casting of under 15# of metal...
 
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All physical dvds are boxed and labeled.  On monday we will take them to the post office.
 
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Fred took about 500 boxes to the post office with the idea that he would drop them off, pay for them and be on his merry way.

Apparently, the post office does things differently now.   Fred was there for six hours and they didn't even process all the boxes.   They had to type in particulars for each box.  Fred will be going back today to finish processing the rest.  

In the meantime, I took cases of dvds to the shipping depot where they will send out the international orders.

I also sent a huge box of dvds to ernie and erica.  

 
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Post office is getting unusual but. Our local PO will take a big order like that, and have you come back as they do the processing. We have a few companies in town that do a lot of PM and special post packages, and they just get to drop off their totes of mail and come back say the next day to pay up, and the PO sends and writes up the bill if something's short for the rep to pay. Or they call when they're done and the rep comes in and pays. Weird that they had to have Fred stand there.

Still, GLAD you're at the end. Break out the marshmellows tonight and toast a few and hoist a few cold ones. You and the crew deserve it.
 
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Hard for me to believe, but I guess it demonstrates once again, that this is a world where anything can happen.  

What do other people do when they want to ship many things?  I wonder if Erica had to go through that when she shipped out her wonderful books.

 
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The amazing Max Temkin (of Cards Against Humanity, which is a party game for horrible people, and very funny) has started a business called Black Box - https://www.blackbox.cool  that specializes in shipping out Kickstarter rewards.  He and his peeps at CAH have gotten pretty awesome at shipping things so they decided to share that expertise with others.

Our mission is to help you sell and ship stuff directly to your fans for a fraction of the cost and effort of doing it yourself. Blackbox works like a co-op: if we all go in together, we get the cheapest pricing, the fastest shipping, and the best service. The shipping is fast. We pay your sales tax. You can customize the packaging and the inserts. It’s pretty great.

We think the future will favor independent creators selling their own products, without publishers or bloodsucking middlemen taking most of the money. In fact, we’re betting the company on it.



I don't know how it compares to spending hours at the Post Office (in price), but it's worth looking into.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:4-DVD sets are now boxed and labeled.

Single dvds are boxed and labeled.

8-DVD sets are now getting boxed and labeled.

Thanks to jocelyn, fred, bill and laurie for their help today with this giant chore!



Lauri and I are happy to have helped. Jocelyn's Chili was a mighty fine lunch, and dinner was outstanding - plus I got to take my DVD home with me! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
 
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I think all of the international orders are now shipped.

There were a few issues with a few addresses that are now getting sorted out.   And there are a few pre-orders that just arrived in the last few days that will need to get processed soon.  And then we need to switch over from "pre-orders" to "orders".

Please let us know in this thread when your physical dvds arrive!

 
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I got my dvds in today's mail.  (western colorado)
 
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I also received my DVD's the other day and am soo excited to be able to show them to my family so mom & dad and my close friends will finally understand what the hell I am talking about.
 
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I have been following the updates over the last year. Was so happy to see/hear that the DVDs were being boxed and shipped.

At this time, I have not seen the DVDs in the mail yet. I noticed that you guys had some trouble with the post office (sorry to hear that).

I originally pledged $90 for the 8-DVD set. If the DVDs are not received in the next week or so, how does one go about contacting you about tracking it down? Just thought I would ask.

Really looking forward to seeing these!! Keep up the great work!
 
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Wade Munsoney wrote:I have been following the updates over the last year. Was so happy to see/hear that the DVDs were being boxed and shipped.

At this time, I have not seen the DVDs in the mail yet. I noticed that you guys had some trouble with the post office (sorry to hear that).

I originally pledged $90 for the 8-DVD set. If the DVDs are not received in the next week or so, how does one go about contacting you about tracking it down? Just thought I would ask.

Really looking forward to seeing these!! Keep up the great work!



Hi Wade, I think the first step would be to verify that we have the correct shipping address for you. Can you email me at destinyATrichsoilDOTcom with your current address, and I'll see if that matches our records?
 
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Away from my computer right now.

We have a thread for physical dvd support.  

Dvds are en route.  We will start processing support requests on October 1.  We do have tracking codes on all packages.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:Away from my computer right now.

We have a thread for physical dvd support.  

Dvds are en route.  We will start processing support requests on October 1.  We do have tracking codes on all packages.



The support thread for receiving the physical DVDs is here 2016 kickstarter support for physical dvds of "Better Wood Heat".

 
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Thanks Destiny and Paul for your responses. I will bookmark the support thread and send my info to Destiny. : )
 
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Paul would love to hear how awesome these videos are! Post your love here!

All rewards have now been sent! Yahoo!!

Reminder:  if you have any questions or issues with your reward(s), do not post here; please read and/or post in one of the following:
  • 2016 streaming support thread
  • 2016 digital download (Scubbly) support thread
  • 2016 physical DVD support thread

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    Way to go!

    I received the 4 DVD set in on the Saturday after they were shipped.
    The first DVD entered the player Sunday morning while I was going to "do some cleaning and organizing stuff around the house".... Yeah, I watched all of the DVD's on that Sunday.

    The videos had a good flow to them and covered nearly everything.

    I think the one thing I was hoping to see covered more was only teased on a bit; The results from Peter van den Berg(I could be mistaken) taking measurements of his batchbox system.  
    I'm sure it was mentioned, but I don't recall any details (I'll have to watch it again.)  I'm a gadget nerd, so if there is something measuring something I kinda want to see it

    I'm excited to build one when I'm in my forever home.

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