May Gardner wrote:I was all excited about preserving my excess garden produce to store in a shelf-stable way, and had this idea that I'd be able to can things I grow in a basic and healthy way, but I keep running into roadblocks. The more I look into it, the less I think canning will work for me. I really want it to work, but it seems like it won't unless I change what I grow so that I grow things specifically for canning, and change the types of foods I'm willing to eat. I already was going to change the foods I would eat some for this, but now it's seeming like I'd need to change it too much. I'm hoping someone(s) will have solutions. Here are the issues:
First: I'm limited to water bath canning, canning-wise, since my stove is not suited for pressure canning, which I can deal with as I was thinking I could still water bath can (and dehydrate, freeze).
Second: I know it's recommended to use only lab tested recipes in order to be food safe. I know I can do something like refrigerator pickles without the recipes, but those aren't shelf-stable and the point for me is to have it last months beyond the season, not just weeks. The thing is, this severely limits what I can use in terms of the ingredients as well as the size of the pieces of ingredients... and I'm having trouble finding much if anything I actually want to eat or think is healthy (I guess it's a relative and subjective term). More on that ahead.
Third: Is related to the previous one in that I don't like sweet pickles or relish, and don't want to have added sugar (or added sweeteners) in my jams, jellies, preserves, etc. or any food actually. It's partially because I don't think it's healthy, and mostly simply because I don't have that much of a sweet tooth and I get headaches from sweeteners, just don't like the taste (especially in pickles), and prefer to taste whatever sweetness (if any) of the foods without that. When it comes to pickles I'm all about the savory and sour, and ick to any sweet with that. When it comes to fruit things, I like the fruit itself without the added sweeteners.
Why is sugar in practically all of the water bath canning recipes, even pickling? I've seen in some places that you can skip the sugar as it's just a flavor thing with pickling, but in other places it says it's needed and none of the recipes have it as an optional thing. Even the recipes for special diets that can't have sugar still have a sweetener. Really? Can't we just have plain dill pickles without sugar or garlic? Which brings me to...
Fourth: I'm allergic to garlic, and somewhat sensitive to onions. I love dill and it's fine in foods... used to be allergic to dill pollen, but that seems to have resolved.
Fifth: There are way more limitations on ingredients for canning than I thought there would be, so like most recipes, I don't necessarily have the exact same ingredients ready to use at the same time and/or at all as the canning recipes. I'm fine with having to get specific canning salt, and get distilled vinegar, but when it gets into the realm of needing to buy produce that I'm not growing just to be able to preserve what I am growing, it stops working for me so much.
Take cucumber pickles for instance, the size of the cucumbers is an important food-safe part of the recipe as is whether you slice it and how. I usually don't grow pickling cucumbers specifically, and I was hoping to be able to pickle the cucumbers I grow when they are a bit younger than I usually eat them. The thing is I grow a lot of snake and Armenian types of cucumbers (which are actually a melon), little cucamelons (which isn't really a cucumber either), and various kinds of cucumbers that are meant to be eaten at a larger size (like slicers), none of which seem to be allowed except possibly the slicers in relish (which has sugar, garlic, onions, or all of those... and red bell pepper which I'm not growing).
I had thought I'd be able to grow things I like (and I do grow lots of varieties), and preserve what I wouldn't be eating fresh so that I could have it during the rest of the year too. I wasn't going to be depending entirely on canning, but I don't have unlimited freezer space, and freezers need electricity, so I was hoping the canning could take care of that. I can dehydrate things, and have been, but my dehydrator only has 5 trays and uses electricity, is not quiet, and it gets depressing having it on all the time in my living space. I'm getting the plans for the solar dehydrators here and we plan to build it, but it might not get done for this season, so I was thinking canning could make up for that. I was hoping to have canning as part of how I can eat food I've grown all year round on a regular basis, even after we have the solar dehydrator.
Does anyone have solutions for this, or should I just give up on water bath canning (at least until/if I adjust what I grow)?
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May Gardner wrote:
I will have to look into fermenting more. I was under the impression that while it takes a while for the fermentation process, once it's done then it is no longer shelf-stable and must be eaten or preserved in some other manner (refrigeration for short term, canning or dehydrating for longer).
Also, I have a history of having histamine issues, which ferments can increase. Many ferments I've tried don't agree with me (like kombucha, kimchi, most sauerkraut and yogurt). This could also be because garlic and/or cow dairy are often involved.
I'm not sure if I've had fermented pickles before. My mom loved, loved, loved pickles and we used to have them all the time when I was growing up. She made a refrigerator kind herself, but mostly we would buy them from the grocery store (when you could get sour dills without sugar or garlic in them) or get the big ones from a deli or something. I'm thinking some of the big ones may have been fermented, but don't know. She and I actually need to eat more salt than most people, so I don't need or want reduced salt things.
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May Gardner wrote:Kate, I have a glass-top electric stove that has burners that cycle on and off when turned to high, which apparently is a no-no for pressure canners. There was an article about what kinds of stoves can and can't work for canning, and it actually had a photo of the exact stove I have (same color too) as an example of what doesn't work, lol. It's a Frigidare Electrolux Gallery Series self cleaning oven with speed bake. It came with the old house I'm in. While I like the control an open flame gives for cooking, I prefer to not have natural gas or LP appliances.
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May said, "Also, I have a history of having histamine issues, which ferments can increase. Many ferments I've tried don't agree with me (like kombucha, kimchi, most sauerkraut and yogurt). This could also be because garlic and/or cow dairy are often involved. That said, I did have some ferments in the past that didn't seem to bother me
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Michael Qulek wrote:There are table-top propane burners you can purchase. In my own cabin, I used one for years before I bought a standard gas model from Home Depot. I suppose you could even set it on top of your regular stove as long as none of the burners can turn on. It ran to a 5-gallon barbeque tank I squirreled away under the table I was cooking on.
That would allow you to pressure can anything you want without acidifiers. Once you the ability to pressure can, a new world will open up for you.
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