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Ruin and structure sketch [Roundwood tiny house over ruin]

 
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We finally put up the temporary winter roof

we got some huge advertising tarps, our plan now is to finish the walls before adding the extra roof weight

and looks like we can't call it a tiny house anymore... we got excited and it's much bigger than expected
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Hi all,

so, some months have passed, much of the time we were traveling and not working on the house, we left after installing the plastic over the roof and rested a bit to let the winter pass

we've spent the last month or so building the framing for the light-clay-straw and the windows/door, also apply most of the top floor flooring, and are now starting the framing of the top floor,

now that we installed the flooring on the top floor and the 1st floor is framed, the structure looks sound and don't move with strong winds (also there is no walls so wind passes very easy) but if we apply our body to give rithmetic movement, the frame trembles/moves, is it normal?

i've been at other low-cost clay constructions where the struture moved also and after the walls covered it stops, we built it with much more care, but are going to fill it with light clay,
i would like to hear opinions about that, will lthe light-clay filling hold that small movement or the walls will crack if there is to much love on the top floor ?

it's our first construction and after almost a year on this i feel it completly dferent and would make many small changes, although this was always meant as a learning experince
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this thread continues on https://permies.com/t/54412/timber/Normal-movement-roundwod-timber-frame
and then on https://permies.com/forums/t/56600/timber//Light-straw-clay-walls-Roundwood
 
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You forked the thread and i missed all the amazing updates!

Good job
 
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And please do not forget to set up the anchors on the kitchen wall so that you can hang the upper closets...
 
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We have the Light Straw Clay walls filled up and getting windows and doors framed for then plastering it, still wondering which plaster to use, would like to avoid lime to be able to use it freely by hand, the idea is to use a 1 to 3 clay/sand mixture, maybe using lime on the last layer, any advices?

check pics on raising the walls: https://permies.com/forums/t/56600/timber//Light-straw-clay-walls-Roundwood
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so in the meanwhile we finished the plaster, also the inside is mostly done

check the plastering thread here: https://permies.com/t/59440/Plastering-Light-straw-clay-Roundwood
and a small video from start to "finish" here: https://permies.com/t/64898/ruin-house-video-Roundwood-small
 
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Have you had any thoughts about turning this back into a mill?
Stone ground products seem to be garnering premium prices from what I see advertised.

Either way it looks like you have a long-term project at hand.

Good luck on both the framing construction and the walls.
 
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Hey folks,

so been 5 years we moved into the house, and it feels great :D

Today i was showing this post to some friends and thought to make an update on how we use the house nowadays

The stone floor (the old mill, there is no more water channel to bring water) is now a small brewery, we brew around 80l a month and the temperature is very stable inside (most of the year, probably 9 or 10 months, stays over 15ºC and all year under 25ºC) great to brew ales and some lagers when to cold
The first floor is our small living room with a small kitchen (that is still unfinished - we live in a community and meals are on the main common house) a lot of storing places on some built in closets and sofa.
The top floor is the sleeping room, we are able to stand straight perfectly on the firs 0,5m from the window and on the lowest part there are nice built in closets for clothes and storage.

Today there would be things we would have made different and still plan to change:
- we used scavenged windows and most of them are single glass, in winter we use thick curtains but definitely something to improve
- we still miss the last plaster layer on the outside wall (we only made two) but been strong and not many cracks appeared (mostly around wood of the windows (wood-clay connection no easy) we plan to still plaster and lime the exterior, still didn't and the walls look fine
- the small hanging platform from the entrance of the 1st floor needs roofing because too much water makes it slipery and starts to rot the tops of the beams with the humidity

We spent less than 500 euros (including the few tools we used) to build this little home on top of an old ruin. Took less than 3 years from planning it, getting materials building and start using it as a livable space, we are still planing to finish it, but we had a very different rhythm since we moved in :D

will try to make some pictures soon to show
 
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J. Tabordiy wrote:will try to make some pictures soon to show

Thank you so much for the update and critique of your tiny home. Yes, pictures would be wonderful!

Also, if you have the time, you might consider posting about the beer making in the fermentation forum: https://permies.com/f/129/fermentation
I'm sure many people would be interested in your experiences in small production in that area, although I admit that personally, my body can't tolerate alcohol. I do understand that properly made beer from organic raw materials is important for some vitamins and minerals.
 
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took some pictures with my cellphone, but the house is too small to have nice pictures from the inside, maybe i need to find someone to lend me a fish-eye lens  

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Small brewery
Small brewery
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Our small brewery on the lower floor a small fermentation laboratory :D
Our small brewery on the lower floor a small fermentation laboratory :D
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Making beer (washing bottles on the fountain and cooking the beer outside)
Making beer (washing bottles on the fountain and cooking the beer outside)
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East/north facing walls
East/north facing walls
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South/east facing
South/east facing
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another small cabin being built (renovated)
another small cabin being built (renovated)
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a small peak inside
a small peek inside
 
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Thanks so much for coming back with an update! I love what you did here!
 
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Very sweet!  Thanks for the update!
 
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