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All over the internet, including here, Youtubers and Bloggers highly recommend Berkey to filter virtually all contaminants including fluoride with the extra filter.   But I haven't seen anyone say they tested their water after filtering.    And I can't find any information about what is in those filters.
 
I'm sure it's proprietary for Berkey but how do we know it's not another chemical or synthetic material with its own risks?   These days I don't trust ANY manufacturer  (thank you Paul Wheaton for turning me into a skeptic - haha!).    

Also in DIY articles, activated alumina is recommended for filtering fluoride - but is alumina derived from aluminum and is it safe?   Is that material available retail?  Pool filter info is scanty too.   And I wonder about supposed organic hydroponics offered in grocery stores.......it never ends

 
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Mike Adams from natural news has tested some of the most popular countertop gravity water filters in his lab, including berkey.  You can see the testing results at http://www.waterfilterlabs.com.
I have had my own high end water filtration system for 20+ years and never gave much credence to gravity counter top filters, but some of his testing results are pretty good.  Certainly worth checking out if you are planning to purchase one.  I have several friends who use the big berkey, even for city water, no one has actually had the output tested, just trusts the product.  Not sure I agree with wholesale trust like that!  I test my pretreatment of total chlorine, hardness, iron, and TDS.  Output testing is only TDS, since mine is less than 1, I assume I'm doing very well!  I ozonate for microbes and polish with DI  before delivery. Lab testing is very expensive, so I'm rigorous with maintenance and trust my system, but do my minimal required testing every time I run it.
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Kevin Derheimer wrote:Susan
Mike Adams from natural news
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Considering Mike's track record (Chemtrails, pseudoscience, etc.)  I'm not sure how much credit I'd give to any "testing" performed by him.  Some of the stuff he posts seems credible, but then he dives off the deep end into junk science, etc.  
 
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Yes, I know, but supposedly, the testing lab is doing good work.  I followed the arsenic in rice story, And when EPA released the gold king mine toxic sludge mess, he did free testing of the water, the river flows thru my backyard so I sent sediment samples.  I'm hoping he keeps doing things to really promote trust.

I wouldn't fully discount the chemtrail thing, I worked at McDonnell douglass when it first came out many years ago.  I printed out pics of "supposed chemtrails" and took them to a couple of aeronautical engineers I knew and asked them to tell me what they thought,  they said about half looked normal, but they had no idea what was going on with the rest.  So, with me having mostly no trust in "government", I remain skeptical of any of their claims that there is nothing going on.  I'm not a tin-foil hat wearing crazy, but have worked in the military industry for enough years, and seen some really bizarre things to be able to say "there just might be something to that"!  But I also know for certain, from first hand experience, that we will probably never the full story.
 
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Two points
What is DI?
Secondly, look at my topic on the benefits of rainfall collection, it may be a viable alternative for some of you.
 
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John C Daley wrote:
What is DI?



Did you mean DIY?  

DIY = Do It Yourself
 
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I'm a big believer in water filtration. I notice a huge difference with my whole house filter, it's like night and day. The first time I took a shower I couldn't believe the difference! I researched a ton of different companies when I knew I wanted a filter and I ultimately went with Natural Waters for a number of reasons.

Natural Waters offers a free in-home water analysis before and after installing a whole home water filtration system. They have a three-step filtration process that starts with a carbon block filter which takes out the large contaminants and cancer-causing trihalomethane. The second step is a mixed media tank with activated carbon that takes out over 80 chemicals and toxins left in the water like chloramines and heavy metals and also improves the taste. This step also uses TAC technology to crystallize the minerals that cause hard water so they no longer stick to your pipes. This method is chemical and salt free, and allows the minerals to stay in the water so those drinking the water can still reap the health benefits. Then finally the last step is a UV water filter, which kills bacteria and viruses in the water (these are FDA approved and also used in hospitals).

Most water filtration companies I've found don't include all three steps, plus they included free installation. The other companies I researched required you to find your own plumber that was certified otherwise they wouldn't insure the filter. Plus they were super helpful with the water test that you had mentioned and gave me the test results to keep for free.

Hope this helps!
 
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