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Welcome to The Penny Vote!!!


We want to know your favorite crop to grow on your homestead, so we have created The Penny Vote!  Over the next 5 days, vote for your favorite crop by adjusting your backer amount by pennies.  The winning crop will be featured in a zoom webinar to discuss all the things about the ultimate favorite homestead crop.  Only those who vote can attend!  

To participate, just change your backer amount to reflect your vote!  For example, if your favorite crop is apples, you would change your dollar amount from $100.00 to $100.17.

Cast your vote here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=59q7qu


We've created a list of what we think are the top 9 crops for the homestead.  Pick wisely!  


Sunchokes $0.11

(AKA Jerusalem artichokes) The beauty of wild sunflowers combined with massive food production, animal fodder, and some medicinal value -- they are all that and a bag of chips. They really do make great chips! Sunchokes can produce 15 million calories per acre - more than corn or potatoes! You don't even need to store them - they are available for harvest all year, although they are best from October through March. The Jerusalem artichoke tolerates terrible soils, dry climates and will produce a huge perennial crop with zero care.  Is the sunchoke your favorite crop to grow on your homestead?  Let us know.  You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .11 (ie: $100.11)

Read More Here:  https://permies.com/t/sunchokes


Wheat $0.12

Wheat is one of the most prolific crops in America and historically important as well.  One acre of wheat produces approximately 4 million calories.  Wheat has a quick turnaround, only after 4 months after planting, your crop is ready to harvest!  A staple in many kitchens, wheat is the main ingredient in bread, and other carb-filled goodies.  If kept in a cool dark place, you can store your wheat for up to 8-12 years!  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .12 (ie: $100.12)

Read more here: https://permies.com/t/169906/sow-Wheat-fields


Holzer grain $0.13

Sepp Holzer grain is a derivative of ancient Siberian rye that does extremely well in disturbed land.  It makes for a great grazing crop.  Sepp Holzer's son described it as "a variety of Secale cereale", but it is also called Russian corn - a relative of wheatgrass.  It can be sown without tilling and is especially good for food forests and cultivating in mountain regions.   Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .13 (ie: $100.13)

Read More Here: https://permies.com/t/1316/Sepp-Holzer-perennial-grain



Potatoes $0.14

Potatoes can produce 17 million calories per acre.  There are about 100 edible varieties.  Potatoes produce happy chemicals in the brain, making them one of the earth's natural antidepressants.  In 1995, it was the first vegetable grown in space!  When stored properly, whole potatoes can last 4-6 months.  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .14 (ie: $100.14)

Read more here: https://permies.com/t/145706/Growing-dig-potatoes


Corn $0.15

An acre of corn produces more than 12 million calories and it is affordable to grow!  The crop itself is versatile and is considered to be both a grain and a vegetable.  Another multi-purpose crop,   Corn stalks can be used as animal feed and the silk is medicinal and highly nutritious and is also believed to possess anti-inflammatory properties.  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .15 (ie: $100.15)

Read More Here: https://permies.com/t/116092/Xenia-Effect-corn



Pumpkins $0.16

The pumpkin, a cultivar of winter squash, produces approximately 1.5 million calories per acre.  Pumpkin patches can serve as an income source in the fall.  People love to pick out their pumpkins and carve them into jack-o-lanterns or use them for both sweet and savory recipes.  Whole pumpkins can be stored for up to 2 months.   If you puree the flesh and can it, you can enjoy your harvest for years to come.  The seeds (pepitas) are edible and extremely beneficial for your health.  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .16 (ie: $100.16)

Read More Here: https://permies.com/t/59646/kitchen/Winter-Squashes-flavor-profiles



Apple $0.17

Apples are reliable and prolific and there are endless varieties, including early season, mid-season, and late season. Apples produce about 11 million calories per acre.  Apples are a versatile food and easy to prepare and popular for making pies.  The apple is prebiotic, nutrient-dense, and is used medicinally for tummy issues, minor wound care, and reducing fevers.  Depending on the variety, they can be a lucrative crop.  Any apples that don't make it to market are great for animal feed.  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .17 (ie: $100.17)

Apples are so great they have their own forum!  https://permies.com/f/432/apples



Sunflower Seeds $0.18

The seeds are considered the fruit of the sunflower and can produce 4.4 million calories per acre.  Seeds can be pressed to extract their oils or packed as a snack - either dehulled or not.  They are packed with loads of vitamins and minerals.  Protect your crop at the first sign of wilting to ensure that you get your harvest, rather than crafty critters.  Sunflower stalks can also be used the next year in your garden as a stake or to create a trellis of sorts.  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .18 (ie: $100.18)

Read More Here: https://permies.com/t/189663/harvest-Sunflower-seeds



Hazelnut $0.19

Hazelnuts bring in about 5 million calories per acre.  They are beneficial for wildlife providing them with habitat and a good food source. Another crop with multiple purposes, hazelnuts are used medicinally as well.  You will see your hazelnut tree bear fruit (the nuts) within the first 4 years.  They grow as high as 18 feet and 12 feet wide and make an attractive hedgerow.   Only 2 hazelnut trees are needed to pollinate each other.  They can flourish in zones 4-9 making them a hardy crop.  .  Is this your favorite homestead crop?  Let us know! You can vote by adjusting your backer level to end in .19 (ie: $100.19)

Read More Here: https://permies.com/t/121713/American-Hazelnut-ready-harvest


Cast your vote here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=59q7qu
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I can't seem to pledge pennies, only dollars.
 
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Christopher Weeks wrote:I can't seem to pledge pennies, only dollars.



It looks like it will have to start at $0.11 instead of 0.01

So apples would be 0.17, hazelnuts 0.19
 
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I don't think the calories per acre are accurate, and the information in the opening thread contradicts itself.

"Sunchokes $0.11

(AKA Jerusalem artichokes) The beauty of wild sunflowers combined with massive food production, animal fodder, and some medicinal value -- they are all that and a bag of chips. They really do make great chips! Sunchokes can produce 15 million calories per acre - more than corn or potatoes! ...

Potatoes $0.14

Potatoes can produce 17 million calories per acre."

I don't think that pumpkins produce nearly 3x as many calories per acre as potatoes or corn.  "The pumpkin produces 42 million calories per acre. "
 
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Trace,

All good points.  Do you have a source for numbers?
 
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I honestly meant to change that.  I remember there being a reference to pumpkins being a cultivar of winter squash during my search for info.

So according to this website, winter squash (flesh with seeds) produces 1.5 million calories per acre.  So I'm betting pumpkins are closer to 1.5M than 42M.  

This information will be reflected on this wiki.

 
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As of right now the numbers are:

CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$0.00
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$0.00
4 - Potatoes$110.18
5 - Corn$210.25
6 - Pumpkin$202.48
7 - Apple$260.31
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$100.09


So far APPLESare winning at $260.31  but corn and pumpkins are not far behind!

To make or change your vote, use this link:  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=31sqap
 
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This is a very fun and good idea, I think.

I had been able to make my pledge at the former amounts.  Thankfully I looked again, saw the change, and updated it .

Is there a typo in the list above between sunchokes and potatoes?  It says:
"They really do make great chips! Sunchokes can produce 15 million calories per acre - more than corn or potatoes"

But then under potatoes it says those can make 17 million cal/acre...
 
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As of right now the numbers are:

CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$200.12
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$0.00
4 - Potatoes$315.63
5 - Corn$200.25
6 - Pumpkin$212.64
7 - Apple$260.31
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$201.18


So far POTATOES has taken the lead at $315.63  but apples and pumpkins are not far behind!

To make or change your vote, use this link:  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=31sqap
 
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As of right now the numbers are:

CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$201.23
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$0.00
4 - Potatoes$415.77
5 - Corn$250.35
6 - Pumpkin$212.64
7 - Apple$261.48
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$201.18


POTATOES are still in the lead at $415.77  but apples and cormare not far behind!

To make or change your vote, use this link:  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=jv8qqy
 
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I also am unable to enter anything except dollars.
 
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Lori Ott wrote:I also am unable to enter anything except dollars.



Mobile or desktop?

Hmmm ...  what about 50 cents - will it allow a half dollar?
 
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Mobile or desktop?

Hmmm ...  what about 50 cents - will it allow a half dollar?


Tried desktop and mobile.  Won't allow entering a decimal at all.  So nope, not even half dollar.
 
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paul wheaton wrote:

Lori Ott wrote:I also am unable to enter anything except dollars.



Mobile or desktop?

Hmmm ...  what about 50 cents - will it allow a half dollar?






Won't allow entering a decimal at all.  Either desktop or mobile.
 
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I just tried it and didn't have an issue with the penny vote.

Lori, in case this is helpful, the option to add cents is in the bonus support section, see screenshot:
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Lori Ott wrote:

paul wheaton wrote:

Lori Ott wrote:I also am unable to enter anything except dollars.



Mobile or desktop?

Hmmm ...  what about 50 cents - will it allow a half dollar?






Won't allow entering a decimal at all.  Either desktop or mobile.



What I ended up doing was just addung 0.11 as a bonus pledge.  I didn't change the number just added it.

Have you tried that?
 
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None of the options are working.  By chance is anyone using Safari, or a different browser?
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$281.24
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$0.00
4 - Potatoes$415.77
5 - Corn$250.35
6 - Pumpkin$312.80
7 - Apple$261.48
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$701.46


Hazelnuts taking the lead all of a sudden!
 
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Lori Ott wrote:None of the options are working.  By chance is anyone using Safari, or a different browser?





It worked using a different browser.  Used Chrome instead of Safari.
 
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When you guys are posting those tables of "$$ Voted" for each crop, what exactly are you reporting?

For instance, just above, hazelnuts are $701.46. If that's the sum of backers with a backing amount of $0.19, which is how I infer this should be working, it means 3691.89474 people have added a $.19 support tip thing...which is plainly impossible. So I'm misunderstanding or your data are booched.
 
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Christopher Weeks wrote:When you guys are posting those tables of "$$ Voted" for each crop, what exactly are you reporting?

For instance, just above, hazelnuts are $701.46. If that's the sum of backers with a backing amount of $0.19, which is how I infer this should be working, it means 3691.89474 people have added a $.19 support tip thing...which is plainly impossible. So I'm misunderstanding or your data are booched.



It's the total of all the pledges under each category (if that makes sense)
So somebody changed their pledge to $400.19, which added $400.19 to Hazelnuts

That said, I'm working on making sure I got all the math right here, lol!
 
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For everyone having issues with adding a few cents - so was I.  I realized that Kickstarter won't let you add less than $1, so I needed to update mine by $1.14 to vote for potatoes.
 
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Ah; thanks for the explainer!
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$281.24
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$0.00
4 - Potatoes$617.05
5 - Corn$250.35
6 - Pumpkin$312.80
7 - Apple$361.65
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$804.55


Updated with current standings, and proper calculations.
Hazelnuts still winning, but potatoes could catch up quick...

I'm surprised to see no love for Holzer Grain yet!
 
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Jim Spaulding wrote:For everyone having issues with adding a few cents - so was I.  I realized that Kickstarter won't let you add less than $1, so I needed to update mine by $1.14 to vote for potatoes.



That was my problem! Thank you so much for the easy solution!!!
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$282.35
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$100.03
4 - Potatoes$617.05
5 - Corn$250.35
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$361.65
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$805.74


Hazelnuts still leading, but we've got our first vote for sepp holzer grain, plus a few more additions.
Pumpkin is crawling up the polls!
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$282.35
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$200.06
4 - Potatoes$817.33
5 - Corn$250.35
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$361.65
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$805.74



POTATOES TAKE THE LEAD!
 
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I want to learn more about all of this!!! So hard to decide!
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$382.46
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$200.06
4 - Potatoes$817.33
5 - Corn$330.50
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$662.89
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$1006.12


Hazelnuts are back in the lead, but apples and corn are making some big moves...

I'm actually surprised at these results so far!
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$393.68
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$200.06
4 - Potatoes$1118.27
5 - Corn$330.50
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$662.89
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$1006.12


Potatoes overtake Hazels again!
 
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paul wheaton wrote:Trace,

All good points.  Do you have a source for numbers?



Average pounds of pumpkin per acre across the US seems to be about 30,000. 117 calories per pound would make about 3.5 million calories per acres on average from the information I found. The numbers differ from different sites I saw.
 
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My experience with these numbers is that they vary from site to site.  I think the numbers will change a lot depending on length of season, fertility of soil, irrigation and so much more.  And then some people will grow suchokes and potatoes, but nothing else.  And their potato numbers are very different from the other site that has numbers for potatoes and corn.  Etc.

It would be mighty handy to come up with one grand table of info.
 
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Trace Oswald wrote:I don't think the calories per acre are accurate, and the information in the opening thread contradicts itself.

"Sunchokes $0.11

(AKA Jerusalem artichokes) The beauty of wild sunflowers combined with massive food production, animal fodder, and some medicinal value -- they are all that and a bag of chips. They really do make great chips! Sunchokes can produce 15 million calories per acre - more than corn or potatoes! ...

Potatoes $0.14

Potatoes can produce 17 million calories per acre."

I don't think that pumpkins produce nearly 3x as many calories per acre as potatoes or corn.  "The pumpkin produces 42 million calories per acre. "


There is a ton of variance in this sort of thing. Some of it did need correcting though. Different authorities using different techniques in different areas report vastly different amounts as standard. But, I have seen some published numbers that have been completely in the twilight zone.  
 
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paul wheaton wrote:My experience with these numbers is that they vary from site to site.  I think the numbers will change a lot depending on length of season, fertility of soil, irrigation and so much more.  And then some people will grow suchokes and potatoes, but nothing else.  And their potato numbers are very different from the other site that has numbers for potatoes and corn.  Etc.

It would be mighty handy to come up with one grand table of info.

 It really depends on the spacing used in fields, which depends on the styles of tractors and implements. I wrote an article on this and it was really hard to come up with some basic numbers. Not to mention different fertility and rainfall/irrigation. I ended up figuring based on the average yield per plant and the most commonly recommended plant spacing here in the US. I am confident that a skilled gardener in good soil working an intensive model can do 2 or 3 times the standard published yields, in a good year. I ended up basing my article on the more commonly used growing methods because it portrays common results.
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$593.68
2 - Wheat$0.00
3 - Holzer Grain$200.06
4 - Potatoes$1218.41
5 - Corn$331.65
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$662.89
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$1106.31


Potatoes  have a healthy lead over hazelnuts, and all other crops seem to have fallen off.  There is still time to make your vote!

Use this link to vote for your favorite crop!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=9u4a1q
 
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CropTotal $$ Voted
1 - Jerusalem Artichoke$593.68
2 - Wheat$100.02
3 - Holzer Grain$200.06
4 - Potatoes$1218.41
5 - Corn$331.65
6 - Pumpkin$412.86
7 - Apple$662.89
8 - Sunflower Seeds$0.00
9 - Hazelnuts$1208.40


Potatoes  and Hazelnuts are almost at a tie!  There is still time to make your vote!  If potatoes win, Paul will see if he can get a local organic potato grower to chime in on the webinar.  If hazelnuts win, Paul will send an email to Mark Shepard and see if he can give us his 2 cents on growing hazelnuts!

Use this link to vote for your favorite crop!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/paulwheaton/garden-master?ref=9u4a1q
 
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Wow it's a tight race! Lol I have to say I'm surprised which crops came out on top with this
 
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My vote is for pumkins/winter squash, we use alot of them as fodder for our sheep. Only thing they like better is melons. Plus the food value and just plan fun of pumpkin patches calls to all a farmers heart. They are also low maintenance, i spend the least amount of time on them. Prep planting area, sow, and forget weeds are as tall as the squash but they just grow through.

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Seems by the numbers there's enough interest for it's own Kickstarter covering all of these crops.
 
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Random question, Jerusalem Artichokes are a type of sunflower, do they produce seed, even if its sub-par but still edible in the most fluid definition of the word? It seems when we do calorie counts sometimes we only count the part of the plant we want to eat, like some if not all pumpkin leaves are edible, and even nutritious according to some, they wouldn't be terribly calorie dense but on sheer bulk alone that might add significant calories on an acre basis. Even 'true' sunflowers have edible greens, etc...
 
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