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M Ljin wrote:For the longest time I had a broken handled hoe and didn’t know how to replace it. Then the other day, someone told me to build a fire and burn the handle off in. I tried and it worked!
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
M Ljin wrote:For the longest time I had a broken handled hoe and didn’t know how to replace it. Then the other day, someone told me to build a fire and burn the handle off in. I tried and it worked!
Personally I wouldn't do that to tools I care about. Good quality digging tools are made of tempered steel, which is why they will take an edge. Heating them in a fire would potentially ruin the temper, making the tool steel much softer. (Though some of the offshore tools are already so soft you'd hardly notice the difference.)
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Jay Angler wrote:There's a PEP badge for this: https://permies.com/wiki/127877/pep-tool-care/Pin-Style-Handle-Tool-PEP
I made a new handle for a small tool and it's still gets regular use.
If had wood stuck in the tool part that was too short to get out, I think I try to screw a good-sized screw into it and see if I could then wiggle it out. First one would have to cut off or somehow remove the pin.
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M Ljin wrote: This gives me an idea. Maybe use screws instead of pins so that they can be removed when needed?
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M Ljin wrote:This gives me an idea. Maybe use screws instead of pins so that they can be removed when needed?
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
Has anyone noticed the cost of replacement handles at hardware stores? Holy smokes! Highway robbery! I scrounge and collect all sorts of handles from free tools at the recycling centre or dumpster so I have a ready supply on hand. The old handles are often much better quality (tight, full length grain) than new ones. I think this has saved me a lot of money over the years.
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John Weiland wrote: Now I want to try Jay's method of driving a large screw into the wood to see if I can pull it out by force. I mean, what can go wrong!?? Don't answer that.... ;-)
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Douglas Alpenstock wrote:Personally I wouldn't do that to tools I care about. Good quality digging tools are made of tempered steel, which is why they will take an edge. Heating them in a fire would potentially ruin the temper, making the tool steel much softer. (Though some of the offshore tools are already so soft you'd hardly notice the difference.)
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Kevin Olson wrote:Save the old broken handles - they're good for all sorts of stuff, ...
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
Kevin Olson wrote:Save the old broken handles - they're good for all sorts of stuff, ...
Agreed! Even small chunks can still be split and whittled into wedges to secure other tool heads.
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Jay Angler wrote:
John Weiland wrote: Now I want to try Jay's method of driving a large screw into the wood to see if I can pull it out by force. I mean, what can go wrong!?? Don't answer that.... ;-)
You might want to have vice grips handy to pull on the screw, or even a bench vice? (Then again, I have very wimpy hands.)
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John Weiland wrote:[ On a lark, I had angled grinder in use that day and ground off the rust on the fork to reveal the problem. There indeed was a pin through the head, but the pin heads had been fused so cleanly with the fork head metal (welded?) that planning a removal procedure looked daunting. I was able to drill out one side of the pin, but the non-drilled side is well afixed....even after pounding the drilled side with a punch. Any suggestions for completing this job would be welcomed....Thanks!
M Ljin wrote:It is a tiny bit loose and I worry might loosen more while drying, but it shall be a learning experience.
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M Ljin wrote:Unfortunately my handle broke again, at the end of the handle sleeve.
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Anne Miller wrote:Maybe the wood that went into the shaft was not long enough?
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John Weiland wrote:[ On a lark, I had angled grinder in use that day and ground off the rust on the fork to reveal the problem. There indeed was a pin through the head, but the pin heads had been fused so cleanly with the fork head metal (welded?) that planning a removal procedure looked daunting. I was able to drill out one side of the pin, but the non-drilled side is well afixed....even after pounding the drilled side with a punch. Any suggestions for completing this job would be welcomed....Thanks!
Jay Angler wrote:
M Ljin wrote:Unfortunately my handle broke again, at the end of the handle sleeve.
One thing I learned is that most handles have a "strong directions" and a "weaker direction". Hopefully one of our wood workers will pitch in and explain how to make sure the "strong direction" will be the direction most likely to be being stressed when the tool is being used properly.
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One can never be too kind to oneself or others.
M Ljin wrote:
Jay Angler wrote:
M Ljin wrote:Unfortunately my handle broke again, at the end of the handle sleeve.
One thing I learned is that most handles have a "strong directions" and a "weaker direction". Hopefully one of our wood workers will pitch in and explain how to make sure the "strong direction" will be the direction most likely to be being stressed when the tool is being used properly.
I think this was one problem. My guess is the strong direction is where the curve of the stick goes with the force of the tool being used, not against?
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One can never be too kind to oneself or others.
M Ljin wrote:You are saying they are made of young poles though?
One can never be too kind to oneself or others.
Douglas Alpenstock wrote:
John Weiland wrote:[ On a lark, I had angled grinder in use that day and ground off the rust on the fork to reveal the problem. There indeed was a pin through the head, but the pin heads had been fused so cleanly with the fork head metal (welded?) that planning a removal procedure looked daunting. I was able to drill out one side of the pin, but the non-drilled side is well afixed....even after pounding the drilled side with a punch. Any suggestions for completing this job would be welcomed....Thanks!
The first option is to heat the rivet head with a small propane torch (a plumber's torch) to try to break the rust weld by expansion and contraction.
The other option is to turn the rivet head into a crude bolt head that you can grab with a big vise-grip. I'd use an angle grinder and cold chisel. Then you can twist and pull on the rivet head.
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