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A piece of land is worth as much as the person farming it.
-Le Livre du Colon, 1902
Greg Mamishian wrote:Government bureaucracies act upon complaint only because their employees are liable for not responding to complaints. So if there is nothing to cause your neighbors to complain about what you are doing, you can do whatever you want. That's how we've been able to operate our own completely self contained fully sustainable black water system for 4 years.
A piece of land is worth as much as the person farming it.
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Timothy Markus wrote:Around here you need a certificate of occupancy in order to move in to a new house. You can bet that the inspection will flag a missing septic system.
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Dan Grubbs wrote:A friend of mine took an "educate the health director" approach and did get his humanure system approved.
He took the time to get to know the person and talked about various systems in the world and how they all worked. My friend shared a lot of literature and designs from other places and met a few times to discuss. It took some time, but this person in charge of health for the county became educated on the subject and when my friend submitted a design with plenty of details, it didn't take the government official too long to get to the point of approval for my friend's system.
I do admit this is likely an exception to the majority, but if time and education are the only things holding back a county official from approval, then we can commit the time and effort to get them there. Or, install a standard septic system.
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Cat Hargreaves wrote:We are looking to build in Island County. They have very strict regulations and building off grid is basically not allowed for an actual house. Septic is required and as far as I know, a self-install is not permitted. Septic is so expensive! Would it be cheaper to develop an alternative greywater/blackwater system? And possible to technically pass inspection?
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Mike Jay wrote:I'm surprised California doesn't do what Wisconsin does. Must be nice living there. Here every 3 years we have to have our septics inspected by a licenced professional who signs a card and sends it off to the state. So just having an occupancy permit doesn't get you off the hook, the septic needs to stay operational forever.
David Baillie wrote:I don't have problems with the septic requirements as I understand where the municipality is coming from. Every homeowner will swear up and down that they are there forever so what they choose to install should be their decision. The reality in my area is average ownership is close to 7 years. Add in proximity to water and growing populations and it can be a slow moving train wreck down the road which then falls back on them.
Cat Hargreaves wrote:Since we are wanting to build we need to pass inspections to get a certificate of occupancy
Since saving money is the goal, I won't pay for septic install and then NOT use it. I'm happy to use the system but dismayed by the cost.
Island county has stringent regs because the groundwater is being polliged by outdated systems. I understand the need for managing water in such a way that it doesn't damage the ecosystem and poison your neighbors. paradise doesn't stay that way for long if people ruin it.
as far as I know the composting toilets are allowed in public facilities and not private homes. also doesn't solve the problem of dealing with grey water. composting toilets are allowed as a secondary facility but one must be flushable if my.research proves correct.
im realizing septic may be unavoidable. fuck.
Mike Jay wrote:I'm surprised California doesn't do what Wisconsin does. Must be nice living there. Here every 3 years we have to have our septics inspected by a licenced professional who signs a card and sends it off to the state. So just having an occupancy permit doesn't get you off the hook, the septic needs to stay operational forever.
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